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Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by halo37253 »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #70
caeril wrote: post #14

It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

This looks like the start of an incel complaint. You really think that 1/8 of men are sexing up 8x women, and "taking your opportunity" or something? In reality women are looking for partners too. No one owes anyone anything, just be a decent person, try to get over your expectations of the world owing you something.

Everyone is having sex.

It just is more likely for a man to only have 1-2 partners before settling down with one. While a female may have had 2-10x that number by the time they settle down.

Its that 1/8 of men that have many partners, while 4/8 woman have many partners.

A man can be a sl*t too.

But you'll find that these days a young man is more likely to want to start a family than a young woman. And this has been proven over and over again by studies.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by yucky »

hiran88 wrote: post #9

From my perspective and direct experience, it’s widespread porn use, which has extremely detrimental effects on your dopamine system, which leads to something you might term ‘lack of charisma, confidence and vital energy’, which leads to less people having sex due to confidence/charisma issues and lack of any drive. By my experience and observation, porn is really bad for oneself, and it’s really addicting. I’m a mil…

Anybody who has taken a long break from porn can back this up 100%, and it's obvious when you think about it. How sexually motivated are you after release, and the fact that porn makes it easy and free and low effort will obviously have an impact on that motivation to put in the effort.

If I could give 2 pieces of advice to all young people (men in particular) it would be to stay off dating apps and leave the porn alone. Go talk to women in real life, as long as you're not trying to get laid with a 30 second conversation you can build those connections up over time and you'll see the difference it makes.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by paulnpace »

yucky wrote: post #146
halo37253 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>This younger generation simply has to work more. The data does not back that assertion up, at all. >Honestly having sex more than 1-2 times in a single week is exhausting. Well, that's a problem. Sex is supposed to be reinvigorating, not exhausting.

> The data does not back that assertion up, at all.

Median home prices are accelerating in their annual price increase with a significant uptrend beginning on the mid- to late '90s. This represents a significant percentage of personal budgets, and those who are on the margins will be pushed out without increasing their income.

It is an assertion on your part that there is no data.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

seneca wrote: post #117
stickyricky wrote: post #94

A large component is hormonal birth control. We chemically castrate young girls before the point of sexual maturity. It crushes their libido for the duration of use and may inhibit full development. My wife on hormonal birth control is the not the same person as she is off. Its sad the article didn't address this topic at all. When you get finasteride for hair loss the first thing they tell you about is sexual side e…

We don't talk about it because "the pill" was one of the sacred cows of the Womens' Liberation movement, and any negative commentary, however rooted in fact, is taken as an attack on the idea of social freedom for women. It's unfortunate, because as you said it has significant effects on those who take it.

We really, really need to fight this attitude of fearing the discussion ("because you help the alt right") in all aspects of social life. This brings so much harm to humanity. I don't understand why. So many things have a positive and a negative side. Why shouldn't we discuss both? If anything, admitting a fact that doesn't fit your world view is not a sign of weakness but clear reason. I wish more people understood that, including journalists.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by D13Fd »

There are lots of good reasons in the article. One reason I didn't think they paid enough attention to, though, is that there is just a lot more stuff to do these days. We still have TV, books, board games, the great outdoors, hobbies, and all of the other things we had 30 years ago. But we also have video games, commercial-free streaming TV and movies, social media, and all of the other high-grade digital entertainment that comes with the Internet. And it's right in our pocket or at our side 24/7, and spoon-fed to us by algorithms designed to maximize our engagement.

People just don't need to get bored any more. There is always instant, easy comfort available. I think that's why it's harder to find motivation to go out and do things that are even more fun, and certainly more meaningful, but which are also more work.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by rglullis »

halo37253 wrote: post #141
rglullis wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't complain about me using my little amount of free time to blow off steam when I'm brining home 3x your wage. And this, my friends, is what you get for giving way to a culture of hyper-individualization and materialism.

When it comes to your kids, everyone should want to set them up for life. My goal even from a young age before kids was to build generational wealth. We live in a world where money makes a big difference in lifestyle. Living Paycheck to Paycheck is a shitty way to live life. I did plenty of that early in life, and grew up in a house hold that lived paycheck to paycheck. I don't want that for my kids.

Way to miss the point.

You could be the King of England for all I care, if your relationship with your wife depends on how much you make compared to her, you have a lot (a lot!) of soul searching to do.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by hiran88 »

beeforpork wrote: post #147
hiran88 wrote: post #9

From my perspective and direct experience, it’s widespread porn use, which has extremely detrimental effects on your dopamine system, which leads to something you might term ‘lack of charisma, confidence and vital energy’, which leads to less people having sex due to confidence/charisma issues and lack of any drive. By my experience and observation, porn is really bad for oneself, and it’s really addicting. I’m a mil…

> From my perspective and direct experience, But not from a scientific perspective. ... But go on, go on... > it’s widespread porn use, which has extremely detrimental effects on your dopamine system, which leads to something you might term ‘lack of charisma, confidence and vital energy’, which leads to less people having sex due to confidence/charisma issues and lack of any drive. Your perspective is wrong and your…

Take a look at my response to jstx1

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by PaulHoule »

Throwaway8373 wrote: post #100

One of my greatest problems is knowing what is right and wrong when courting for a mate. The rules are changing so rapidly that what I learned in sex-ed is outdated, and not even talking about what my parents could teach me. The public discourse on sex is also mostly negative and discouraging. And this is what we meditate on a daily basis -- when you hear more about women feeling the need to wear, well weapons, when…

I have been studying the psychology of love, relationships, attraction, seduction, etc. since last summer. Something I've read over and over again is that that Stendhal's book "On Love" is one of the very few worth reading

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/53720/53720-h/53720-h.htm

I read it and agree.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Post by cjbgkagh »

I see incels as collateral damage from the the Gender Wars. A schism intentionally driven to supplement the broader Culture Wars. I only expect this to get worse and have no idea how it will end.

Incels show up in stats but most everyone is suffering. I do know that victim blaming will continue while we learn the hard way why we had traditions in the first place.

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