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Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Where?

I’m having a tough time finding it, google isn’t helping. I’m hoping someone else remembers and knows where it is. I distinctly remember seeing it, it was posted to a group chat so maybe doctored but that’s unlikely. Edit: found it; institute of family studies 2022 of no sex in the past 5 years for under 35 year olds.

Here is the link

https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-faith-less-sex-why-are-so-ma...

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

Wait, how is that even mathematically possible? Most people are heterosexual and there is roughly the same number of men and women. Are you saying that there is a small cohort of men that have sex with most of the women? I find it hard to believe — most people, men and women, are monogamous.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Mid 20s, here is my perspective. I have spent the last 7-8 years studying like my life depended on it, and I have little to show for it. I am autistic, so I haven't developed the social skills necessary. Every social interaction is a conscious process and I have to consciously read everything to interact "normally". The effort is simply not worth it. Why should I even bother approaching a person when with high probab…

Feel better, friend. The mere fact that you are concerned about being a creep means you're one of the good ones.

Relationships are hard, even with good people, so try to lower the stakes. Have a friendly coffee with no real expectations with more people. More dates with less expectation. This is what helped me. I said something completely stupid and autistic on my first date with my now wife, but she stuck with me because she saw potential.

Relationships are a numbers game. And to help decide who to keep and who to discard, I like the Secretary Problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Sounds incel-y. Most men have no problem sleeping around. They just don't want the women who are interested in them.

Young Woman are more "Fuk Boi" than most Men. See only a small % of men really end up being "Fuk Boi" Material.

The rest either are financial loosers or work/family becomes their life. Do nothing more than work all day to bring home the big bucks, and spend the rest of their night with their kids and wife.

If you've ever read articles about Tinder and the whole random hookup culture, you'd know it is largely driven by a small % of men and a wider range of woman that are not looking for a relationship at all. And a large % of Men that fail to attract anything.

I found my soulmate early in life and have kids. Work is my life. I find this whole idea of not enough sex stupid. The real goal is and always has been making money. Jerk off and go back to grinding. Retire at 50. Have mid day sex then. Otherwise jerk off and stick to having sex at night before bed.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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A large component is hormonal birth control. We chemically castrate young girls before the point of sexual maturity. It crushes their libido for the duration of use and may inhibit full development. My wife on hormonal birth control is the not the same person as she is off. Its sad the article didn't address this topic at all. When you get finasteride for hair loss the first thing they tell you about is sexual side e…

Some parents unfortunately might see that as a feature and not a bug. It absolutely suppressed the sex drive of my first girlfriend. I was the one to tell her about it (before we dated, even). Ironically for her that might not have been a bad thing in the end. My wife? It turns her in to a raging, emotional, monster. The exact opposite of what she’s normally like. Luckily she didn’t go on it until we were dating for…

> My wife? It turns her in to a raging, emotional, monster.

Mine too. It was fairly difficult to convince her that it was not a "real" emotion and had an external cause.

Its given me a very negative few of hormonal birth control. The copper IUD has some downsides but seems to be the ideal option.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

For those asking for evidence, this is a piece if it [0]. Lack of sex is driven by young people, mainly young men. Although the share of sexless women happens to be at an all time high as well, it is nowhere near the level of men.

I don't think though it can be inferred from here that women hook up with the top 10/15% of men.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-ame...

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. edit: The above was my reflexive response to the headline. Now that I've actually read the article, I have to say that the article is very good and quite comprehensive,…

Do you have a source for this claim? Specifically that women aren't having less sex too, and that the decline is almost entirely due to men. It's very possible for women to be more selective than in the past, and also everyone being less promiscuous overall.

Can't speak for the quantity, but didn't the big analysis from OKCupid determine that 80% of women are fighting over the top 20% of men? The data was published in a book called Dataclysm by Christian Rudder.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Lack of eye contact. That's what I see among both sexes under the age of 30. Almost to the level of autism. An inability to have basic conversation. And the boys are totally ineffectual and terrified of trying to kiss a girl; it's been made faux pas to show any inclination. It's hard enough as a teenager to get up the courage to kiss a girl. Imagine if you think there's a 50/50 chance she'll completely destroy your l…

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> Don't complain about me using my little amount of free time to blow off steam when I'm brining home 3x your wage.

And this, my friends, is what you get for giving way to a culture of hyper-individualization and materialism.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Sounds incel-y. Most men have no problem sleeping around. They just don't want the women who are interested in them.

Sounds incel-y? It screams it. Let see, calls women who have sex "sl*ts". Says it's easier for women. Says older men are more attractive than women. It checks all the boxes for a redpill/incel nonsense.

Yet lets ignore the proven statistics showing woman avg higher number of sexual partners in their life than men.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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I quite liked this article. I would be interested in more analysis on the environmental effects of endocrine disruptors as a result of plastic seepage and hormonal birth control, but it seems like it's not super easy to find without venturing into crazy conspiracy land. I don't want to sound like General Jack Ripper but at the end of the day we're just animals. If the environmental impact of these pollutants is pervasive enough I would imagine it would have large aggregate effects on human behavior.
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