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Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now tell us the mean, mode and standard deviation, show us the 25th and 75th percentiles and break all those stats out by gender. Paints a different picture doesn't it? There's a bell curve but the shape of the bell and the length of the tails can really add up to a lot of area not near the middle.

Actually the median is 3 for both sexes. Yes, of course there are some outliers who have (or report) very many partners.

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Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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So what's the problem when people are not forced anymore to adhere to stupid social games, faking interest in other people, wasting a lot of time on something that in the end is just a couple of minutes of satifsfying a body function? Seems like a huge plus. Nobody is forced to live that way, and probably everybody else is better off with the two worlds separated.

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Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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A large component is hormonal birth control. We chemically castrate young girls before the point of sexual maturity. It crushes their libido for the duration of use and may inhibit full development. My wife on hormonal birth control is the not the same person as she is off.

Its sad the article didn't address this topic at all. When you get finasteride for hair loss the first thing they tell you about is sexual side effects. My wife didn't know about the sexual side-effects of hormonal birth control until she was in her late 20's. And she had to learn it from me... No doctor ever mentions it. The article doesn't mention. The clinical literature is clear that hormonal birth control has an effect on libido and you can see thousands of forum posts by women complaining of this exact thing. Its bizarre to me that more people don't talk about it.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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The article almost exclusively talks about the US. One reason that isn't mentioned in the article is because the US is fundamentally based on puritanism and a lot of its values, especially concerning passion and sexuality are still prevalent in its culture. The "All American" OJ and corn flakes breakfast and circumcision (used as a form of genital mutilation to prevent masturbation) by Kellogs is still practiced to t…

I mean, this has always been the case, though, so not sure what this long, rambling comment has to do with the decline happening today. I also think you're being hyperbolic. No one, except fringe groups, treats sex that way here.

If you want to see a long rambling comment you should see one of mine.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#96

Wow this thread is wild. My understanding is it's because nobody can afford their own place - either living with their parents or roommates.

This is very true with the Gen Zers, Especially the Early Gen Z. You folk that are in your mid 20's. Really People born after 1995 are not Millennial. Its hard to even justify people born in 94 a Millennial. You don't remember 911, and you didn't experience last last economic recession first hand in the work force. If your first out of HS job was after 2012, You are a Gen Zer. They simply are struggling, very few hav…

I don't agree at all that they are a lazy generation. They've just been presented with little to no economic opportunities, especially in areas that many of them care about like climate collapse, which is an in-our-lifetime threat to them. There's not much in the way of an economic ladder, and many are saddled with a great deal of student debt because they've had it drilled into them that a degree is the only way to get a good job. Then you graduate with a degree and there are still no good jobs, but you still have to pay it off.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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post #16

The article almost exclusively talks about the US. One reason that isn't mentioned in the article is because the US is fundamentally based on puritanism and a lot of its values, especially concerning passion and sexuality are still prevalent in its culture. The "All American" OJ and corn flakes breakfast and circumcision (used as a form of genital mutilation to prevent masturbation) by Kellogs is still practiced to t…

This is nonsense. Religion, and associated sexual puritanism, are trending down in the US rapidly and have been for 60 years. By what mechanism is it exerting more control now than 20 years ago?

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently saw a chart that showed that women recently overtook men in the no sex in the last 12 months.

Where?

I’m having a tough time finding it, google isn’t helping. I’m hoping someone else remembers and knows where it is. I distinctly remember seeing it, it was posted to a group chat so maybe doctored but that’s unlikely.

Edit: found it; institute of family studies 2022 of no sex in the past 5 years for under 35 year olds.

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#99

Wow this thread is wild. My understanding is it's because nobody can afford their own place - either living with their parents or roommates.

Yep. Some 40% of people between the ages of 23-50 live with their parents in US(according to wsj)

Re: Why are young people having so little sex? (2018)

#100
One of my greatest problems is knowing what is right and wrong when courting for a mate. The rules are changing so rapidly that what I learned in sex-ed is outdated, and not even talking about what my parents could teach me.

The public discourse on sex is also mostly negative and discouraging. And this is what we meditate on a daily basis -- when you hear more about women feeling the need to wear, well weapons, when going out than you hear them wanting to be courted, well then I'd rather go and drink a bear and play some billiard with my mates.

I have recently started reading the works of John Gray (the one with Venus and Mars) and David Deida. Men that provide a somewhat coherent narrative and definitely provide material better to mediate on than the mass media.

Does anyone have some recommendation on literature supporting men courting women?

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