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... but 2 years of government mandated economic destruction is fine? They didn't do all this in Sweden.
Sweden has vaccine rules too…
Can't you enter Sweden with either vaccination or proof of recovery or a negative test?
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency...
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So is somebody physically blocking a bridge with a giant truck and refusing to move it less militant than somebody pulling their music off Spotify and writing a letter explaining their choice? Why did you use the term “militant” to describe the side that is not using military tactics.
Blocking bridges with trucks and no guns is a military tactic? I believe that is an example of civil disobedience. Words matter.
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>"Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. One lane of the bridge was open and the Detroit tunnel had absolutely no blockade. This is a mild inconvenience. Protests are inconvenient to be sure. If the media you consume portrayed this as if there was no traffic at all between detroit and windsor... time for you to look to new media. I…
Since you donated money to them, you probably would like to know that the manifesto of the organizers who setup the GoFundMe and started the convoy explicitly wanted the Governor General and Senate to meet with the organizers and form a committee to replace the federal government. [1] They only recently stepped back from the manifesto a few days ago. [2] 1. https://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/audio/podcasts/the-…
I never donated to them for the record. I wouldn't even join some solidarity thing.
The first link doesnt load any audio for some reason. So i dunno there.
The second link being from a 'government accredited media' org basically just says this MOU was withdrawn. Never provides a sentence of the MOU of what it says. Though they say:
>The group had been accused by some of using the document to try to legitimize an attempt to seize power from the federal government.
Yes well, the group was also called white supremacists, so lets just look at the real deal.
>By having the Senateof Canadaand theGovernorGeneralof Canadasign this MOU into action, they agree to immediately cease anddesist all unconstitutional, discriminatoryand segregating actionsand human rightsviolations.It calls for animmediate instruction toall levels of the Federal, Provincial, Territorialand Municipal governments to not only stop but furthermore waive all SARS-CoV-2 (and not limited to SARS-CoV-2 subsequent variations)fines that have been issued and imposed upon its citizens, institutions, and private enterprises.Further, to immediately re-instate all employees in all branches ofall levels ofgovernments and not limited to promote the same to the private industry and institutional sectors employees with full lawful employment rights prior to wrongful and unlawful dismissals.Lastly it instructsall levels of government and private Sector that the Illegal use of a Vaccine Passportto cease anddesistimmediately
OK, I can certainly see where some people are coming from, but absolutely don't agree with the conclusion they are trying to seize power. In fact no reading or interpretation of that has them asking for power. They are asking for the GG to simply restore our rights. Which is absolutely something we have in Canada that may seem abnormal to say the USA.
No doubt why the national post doesn't actually copy and paste any of this. This is entirely what the Monarch and GG is supposed to be for. Hurts me to say because I think we should cut all ties to the British monarchy and move toward a republic. Coming back to context of my comments. The use of our monarchy being used as if to be an insurrection is the most absurd thing I have ever heard. Our monarchy is still our monarchy. If our monarch decides something, we must abide and that's not insurrection.
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https://angusreid.org/omicron-incidence-restrictions/ - scroll down to "Part Four: What now? Majority want restrictions to end"; 54% of Canadians want the mandates to end. OTOH, this poll https://abacusdata.ca/ottawa-survey-freedom-convoy/ suggests that about 22% of Canadians support the convoy and 67% don't.
It's all down to how a poll accurately frames a question: Do people like restrictions? No, nobody likes restrictions. Do people like restrictions that save lives? Still don't 'like' them but believe sacrifice is necessary for the greater good. Do I support people's right to protest? Yes, but... You can't honk all night Block major infrastructure for days Desecrate war monuments Flood 911 with fake calls Etc.
Do people want to continue with restrictions that have pushed the opioid epidemic to a new high [1]. Pushed mental health in youth to 'completely unsustainable' levels [2]. Stolen normal development/socialization from children & young adults using restrictions that were not always clearly evidence based [3]. And, all this considering the current outlook of the virus is far more positive than it once was.
The Angus Reid poll phrased their question like this, for anyone interested:
>It's time to end restrictions and let people self-isolate if they're at risk.
[1]: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/deadliest-year-in-b-c-s-opioid-crisis-...
[2]: https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/completely-unsusta...
[3]: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/kids-masks...
It appears this was the result of terrible security at GiveSendGo. I'd agree it could be state sponsored, but I am certain there are enough people with the skills to do this on their own downtown Ottawa (even if it turned out they work for the gov't). That said, I am thoroughly disappointed the Federal gov't and much of the media coverage. They have done nothing but make the situation worse. I think it is intentional…
>there is no violence, and no obvious danger While there is no outright violence, there is torture to local residents, there was attempted arson, there is continued intimidation and harassment of those wearing masks, there is intimidation of visible minorities, there are attacks on businesses.... Is that enough to convince you that the situation is out of hand and than stricter action is needed? The protestors haven'…
Please don't comment on downvotes like this; it's not useful.
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>"Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. One lane of the bridge was open and the Detroit tunnel had absolutely no blockade. This is a mild inconvenience. Protests are inconvenient to be sure. If the media you consume portrayed this as if there was no traffic at all between detroit and windsor... time for you to look to new media. I…
> Ottawa has a population of 1 million and their downtown area will always have honking. Like you know... every other downtown area of a large capital city. Calling this 'medically unsafe' is quite a stretch. Our homes are quite insulated here in Canada given the cold. The same insulation reduces road noise a lot. If you cant sleep because of road noise downtown... move because that happens year round. I've had honki…
Would you say this honking in vancouver was 'medically unsafe'?
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Peaceful? I think news of armed militants amongst the protesters will soon be commonplace, like today's arrests of this heavily armed cadre: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/coutts-protest-blocka...
Was there any actual violence? If not then it was peaceful. Merely being armed certainly increases the capacity for violence, but it’s not violence in and of itself. I’m not familiar with Canadian law on the subject, so I don’t know if possession of the items in question is unlawful or if there was some other cause for the arrests.
That's the crux of this - their weaponry was way out of line according to Canadian law.
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From the TC article: It’s not known for exactly how long the bucket was left exposed, but a text file left behind by an unnamed security researcher, dated September 2018, warned that the bucket was “not properly configured” which can have “dangerous security implications.” So... this has been a known problem since 2018. Time to stop tilting at windmills.
If it's all theater, then it's worth pointing out the A/C/M times of files are easy to fake. A competent intruder can feather filesystem times and modify logs to point investigators toward the wrong conclusion.
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This type of revelation will likely be commonplace in the days/weeks ahead as militant extremists are exposed.
There will always be some opportunistic groups looking to cause more mayhem in chaotic situations like this. These protests have been literally “mostly peaceful” no?
That's fair, yes. Economically disruptive, but largely peaceful.
I'd wager the left isn't going to pass "it's legal to run over protesters" in response to these, though. https://www.vox.com/2021/4/25/22367019/gop-laws-oklahoma-iow...
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Idk. At best you are defending the idea that the majority of protestors are pawns in someone else’s game, no? Just because someone doesn’t know they’re being used doesn’t mean they aren’t being used …
If that's the case then you're screwed either way because Trudeau's racism is thoroughly documented. :) But thankfully (much to the chagrin of the media and others) these protests have centered narrowly around the bodily autonomy issue rather than unsavory race views, and the likelihood of the protests transforming into racial protests is small. Further still, the establishment could completely take the wind out of t…