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Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Re: Names of Canada truck convoy donors leaked after reported hack

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Post by rpmisms »

nverno wrote: post #97
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

It's not just a run of the mill worker's strike, though, it's tactically ingenious- they were able to put huge pressure on people very quickly without ever needing to get violent or aggressive. Good for them.

They're simply seizing the means of transportation, and reminding the government that the economy is dependent on them.

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Post by maccard »

Dig1t wrote: post #208
acdha wrote: post #142

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You mean where your support for a controversial political movement would be irrevocably public? If this list had leaked Bitcoin addresses, the next thing you'd see would be a report of everything else those addresses had been used for.

True, but its much harder to dox this number of people if all you have is a big list of Bitcoin addresses. It requires significantly more work, plus it's also harder to stop the disbursement of funds like what happened with the Canadian government freezing bank accounts and transactions with this campaign.

The equivalent of a list of bitcoin addresses would be a list of credit card numbers, which this is not. This is closer to a list of names on an exchange like coinbase than a list of wallet addresses.

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Post by inter_netuser »

Dig1t wrote: post #190
good8675309 wrote: post #116

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The definition of an insurrection is "a violent uprising against an authority or government." Where is the violence? I'm seeing people dancing and enjoying themselves. So much joy. It's like a big festival. People are helping each other and coming together. I see families and food banks being filled, trash cleaned up. Please post videos of all the violence. Btw, you can see an endless feed of the types of events I've…

Exactly! The media portrayal of the events is so incongruous when you actually watch the videos and see the pictures of the protestors. The headlines do not match what these people are actually doing at all. They are playing hockey in the streets, walking around waving flags with "freedom" on them. Yes they're noisy, but that's what protests are all about right? Making noise to be heard.

Because the majority of media in Canada is funded by the government under the guise of protecting home grown talent and such. It’s heavily subsidized and has all sorts of benefits at taxpayers largesse in order to survive the competition from the US.

Without that regulatory backing, it would be dead under a year.

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Post by sleepingadmin »

peeters wrote: post #80
abernard1 wrote: post #45

As one of the donors included in this hack, I am not entirely sure what they're out to accomplish. Despite eye-rolling media mischaracterizations of these truckers as you-know-whats, it's a run of the mill workers strike. It has also been extremely peaceful and frankly comical at times. (We can contrast this with the "fiery yet mostly peaceful protests" of 2020 that negatively affected working class neighborhoods and…

If you're going to attack "media mischaracterizations" let's be truthful. > but because white collar, work-at-home employees are mildly inconvenienced for a week, they're advocating police action against them and calling it an insurrection. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day. "Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for r…

>"Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for shutting down a border crossing that handles $350 million in trade per day.

One lane of the bridge was open and the Detroit tunnel had absolutely no blockade. This is a mild inconvenience. Protests are inconvenient to be sure. If the media you consume portrayed this as if there was no traffic at all between detroit and windsor... time for you to look to new media. I am curious where you have gotten this idea? CBC? Some other 'government accredited media'?

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2022/02/12/Detroit-...

>"Mildly inconvenienced" is an interesting term for residents having to put up with medically unsafe volumes of horn honking all throughout the nights. Some had brought train horns and were blaring those.

Ottawa has a population of 1 million and their downtown area will always have honking. Like you know... every other downtown area of a large capital city. Calling this 'medically unsafe' is quite a stretch. Our homes are quite insulated here in Canada given the cold. The same insulation reduces road noise a lot. If you cant sleep because of road noise downtown... move because that happens year round.

>We're "calling it an insurrection" because that is a stated objective of the organizers, to overthrow the elected government of Canada. The fact that this is being encouraged and funded in large part by Americans is frankly, while unsurprising, an overtly hostile act being done to an ally.

No, that's just not in touch with reality at all. Parking large trucks on roads and having a peaceful protest is not an insurrection. There was absolutely no 'otherthrow the elected government of canada' that's a complete fantasy. They haven't once entered buildings or drawn weapons against anyone or anything.

I highly recommend you consume different media because you are not even in the ballpark here.

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Post by ineedasername »

advisedwang wrote: post #8

I'd be very interest in the distribution of donations? E.g. are there big donors or is the money mostly from small donors.

From another comment it looks like the IP addresses are not accurate. Otherwise, it would have been interesting to see if many small donations were coming from the same IP.

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Post by mcphage »

gruez wrote: post #171
soared wrote: post #150

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Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? Truckers are complaining about vaccine passports, blm was complaining about being killed by police officers.

>Uhhh it’s definitely less valid? The truckers see vaccine passports as an oppressive government action, and people getting killed by police officers as no big deal. The BLM protesters see police killings as an oppressive government action, and vaccine passports as no big deal. See the issue here? We as a society need standards for behavior that don't just boil down to "if you think it's justified then you can do wha…

Do you think the truckers would consider replacing vaccine mandates with police killings as a step down in oppression?

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Post by sam_goody »

mrtesthah wrote: post #179
hammock wrote: post #58

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Foreign support is grossly apparent from the leaked data. Individual donors 36,975 Canadian 55,870 Foreign 92,845 Total Amount donated $4,311,287 Canadian $12,532,326 Foreign $16,843,613 Total

I think that most people mean "foreign" as foreign government (such as CCP) support, not just support from middle-class Americans (and Europeans) who identify with the protests and happen to be foreigners.

And while it could be that foreign governments have donated with false identities over GSG, it is more likely that they would send in people to figure out who is really capable of moving things, and contact them with cash, tips, and resources.

(I am not commenting on the envoy, as so far have only seen it in news outlets [such as CNN & NYT on the left and Fox on the right] who have not earned my trust - so I do not know what is really happening.)

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Post by dehrmann »

jeroenhd wrote: post #29
negzero7 wrote: post #15

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It could be state sponsored hacking, but I think it's more likely to be don't by someone who got annoyed by the protests. If I had trucks honking in front of my window, I'd do whatever I could to get them to fuck off as well. No need for the state to get involved if you just piss off enough random people.

I doubt someone who lived that close to the honking had the ability and chutzpah to do this.

After seeing how angry people got over Joe Rogan, I absolutely think there are militantly progressive people who are more concerned with the content of speech than the chilling effect of limiting free speech who would do this. Which isn't to say I agree with the Ottawa protesters or bridge blockaders; I think both went well outside the bounds of free speech.

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Post by peeters »

jazzyk wrote: post #243
peeters wrote: post #228

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As commented elsewhere > One of the main organizers behind the convoy, Canada Unity (CU), acknowledged that they had planned to submit their signed "memorandum of understanding" (MoU) to the Senate of Canada and Governor General Mary Simon, described in the MoU as the "SCGGC". The MoU which was signed by James and Sandra Bauder and Martin Brodmann, was posted on the Canada Unity website in mid-December 2021 and publi…

So they tried to "overthrow the government" by filing a petition to call for early elections? That's quite a stretch...

Well it's a matter of interpretation. You can call it just fundamental misunderstanding of the Canadian constitution, or an attempt to overthrow the government, but either way having the GG, Senate, or Elections Canada force an election while the government enjoys the confidence of the house would be a coup. I'm fine with giving the protesters the benefit of the doubt and just agreeing that they don't understand how the electoral process works in Canada.
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