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Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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A year later means it's probably permanent. I don't think there's any tissue that takes longer than a year to regenerate.

Reference link, please.

>The heart is unable to regenerate heart muscle after a heart attack and lost cardiac muscle is replaced by scar tissue.

https://www.uclahealth.org/heart/cardiac-repair-regeneration

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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A year later means it's probably permanent. I don't think there's any tissue that takes longer than a year to regenerate.

Back in my 40s I broke my leg: a simple tib-fib fracture. Without any artificial fixation it took 3 years to recover. There's plenty of tissues in a human body that can take more than 1 year to fully regenerate.

>The heart is unable to regenerate heart muscle after a heart attack and lost cardiac muscle is replaced by scar tissue.

https://www.uclahealth.org/heart/cardiac-repair-regeneration

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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COVID and the autoimmune response to it damages the endothelial layer of your cardiovascular systems. https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/ATVBAHA.121.316101 and https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-021-00819-6 The big question is how quickly and completely can that layer restore itself? If damage accumulates over time and people are catching new variants every 3-4 months it is only a matter of time before morta…

I had Delta once. Prior to it I would ride 30 miles on my bike like it was a breezy day. When I'd take breaks to vacation or whatever I could pick back up easily. A year after COVID, I'm struggling to hit 20 miles and I lose my progress easily. I'm not sure it's COVID related, but nothing else has changed in my life.

>The heart is unable to regenerate heart muscle after a heart attack and lost cardiac muscle is replaced by scar tissue.

https://www.uclahealth.org/heart/cardiac-repair-regeneration

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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It is personal. As long as people around me are vaccinated, why would they care about my health? The vaccine doesn't prevent transmitting In case you are talking about burdening the medical system, why not apply the same rhetoric to smoking, drinking, being fat and riding motorcycles?

3 doses of vaccination is 60% protective against Omicron transmission. Its not 100% effective, but it's a lot higher than "doesn't".

60% seems quite high, given that the CDC director says that the vaccines cannot prevent transmission anymore, but I haven't seen any confirmed numbers for Omicron transmission so far.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-director-covid-...

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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China's approach has been interesting. For any given city or area they are in one of two states: 1. Wear masks when indoors away from home. Lots of testing. Other than that it is pretty much life as normal. 2. Lockdown. Real lockdowns--not the kind of "lockdown" people complain about in the US where lots of things remain open. China lockdowns are the "go home and do not step out of your home for weeks" lockdowns. The…

I'll add a bit of nuance here: something that is underappreciated is that China does extremely good contact tracing. Cities do not go into full-on lockdown over a single case. The first reaction is to rapidly do contact tracing, and to quarantine and PCR test all close contacts of the infected person. This is done within hours. The building or neighborhood in which the person lives might be locked down, and there wil…

It's amazing how good a totalitarian government can be at tracking and controlling the movement of their citizens. Don't get me wrong for the most part the average Chinese citizen gets a pretty good deal from the government. It's just scary how much power the government has and how little freedom the people could have should the government wish it.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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Better question: were they treated in any way?

What treatments do you mean?

Considering hospitals have basically banned or obfuscated all treatments other than prevention, good questions.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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All of the replies to this completely ignore those of us who have families, and especially young families. Good for you if the sudden removal of responsibilities gave you the freedom to get outside for long periods every day. However, frankly people like this were the main reason I had to quit Strava. While my wife and I struggled to hold our lives and jobs together when it became illegal to have anyone else look aft…

Hopefully people have had their eyes opened about the dangers of allowing too much government control over our lives.

I wish it were true, but I doubt it. The main thing I have learned is that people really don't care, until it affects them.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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It's not a control if it's self-selected.

Nonsense. If a person is unjabbed, they're in the control group, period.

Nope. For the control group to be valid, it must be drawn from the same reference class as the treatment.

You could of course argue that in all respects that matter for the risk of heart disease, people who take vaccines are the same as people who don't. I would disagree, and only a bet could settle the difference.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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The vaccine never (< 0.05%) causes hospitalization, so it never causes serious damage to the cardiovascular system.

> so it never causes serious damage to the cardiovascular system. That is quite the assertive statement in the light of all these public cases of vaccinated athletes keeling over. Is this flamebait?

>Is this flamebait?

Well, not intentionally, but people are a bit crazy these days apparently.

Re: Heart-disease risk soars after Covid, even with a mild case

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> The article says that the vaccine greatly reduces the rate of heart disease amongst people that eventually get covid. It does?? Where does it say this?

> Because severe disease increased the risk of complications much more than mild disease, Ardehali wrote, “it is important that those who are not vaccinated get their vaccine immediately”.

You've found the only sentence in the entire article about vaccination and attached you own meaning to it. If Ardheli wished to convey that severe disease increased the risk of complications much more than mild disease Ardheli could have and should have stated so.

I'm not saying your point is invalid, I'm just saying it's not addressed in the article in question. Please be more careful. It's OK to just admit you we're wrong. It's not OK to twist quotations to support your position not matter how valid or righteous you believe it to be.

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