Reminds me of the practice of Translations.com / Transperfect, one of the largest language services providers. Their HR policy is to not allow employees to name the company in any online space, social media or otherwise. So when you see staff on LinkedIn, for instance, their employer will invariable say "Leading language service provider" or similar. These seem to be completely unreasonable policies, to me, that in e…
Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
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Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#322I remember when I interned at Intel, on the way out I asked about references and I was told, very nicely, that Intel's official policy is to only confirm employment. I suspect that this is really what Apple is doing; but that some accident of circumstance required them to provide a very generic title. Perhaps they can't confirm employment without some kind of title, and that title's now been twisted out of context? F…
Title is nothing subjective. In fact, titles and levels can be matched between two companies easily. Anyway, this is not what Apple is doing. They are downgrading everyone by default, which is akin to providing false information about a former employee.
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#323Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
If lying on your resume is fraud, then we're going to need a whole lot of prison cells.
„i leveraged prior experience in ultra-scalable real-time systems at the edge with my people skills to produce X“ type of bullshit is different than „i had this very specific role at a large and known company that is only assigned to people that have demonstrated high levels of skill“, the latter is plain fraud if not true. it‘s like saying „i have a pilot license“ if you don't
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do these companies consistently use associates, or is there a division between say hourly and salary, or retail vs back-office employees? (I am specifically excluding things like directory and C-level positions because those tend to be much more specialized contracts.) For example, Trader Joe's has Crew Members for the average retail workers, and Mates/Captain for the manager level. Just the titles alone implied a hi…
I work for a moderately large software company. We absolutely refer to everyone as associates if we're referring to everyone who works for the company. (Naturally everyone has specific titles as well, which may not be what they refer to themselves on their business cards/at conferences/Linkedin/etc.)
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
„i leveraged prior experience in ultra-scalable real-time systems at the edge with my people skills to produce X“ type of bullshit is different than „i had this very specific role at a large and known company that is only assigned to people that have demonstrated high levels of skill“, the latter is plain fraud if not true. it‘s like saying „i have a pilot license“ if you don't
Not that I condone it, but can you please point out exactly which laws are broken when you lie on a resume?
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#327Reminds me of the practice of Translations.com / Transperfect, one of the largest language services providers. Their HR policy is to not allow employees to name the company in any online space, social media or otherwise. So when you see staff on LinkedIn, for instance, their employer will invariable say "Leading language service provider" or similar. These seem to be completely unreasonable policies, to me, that in e…
sounds like something out of the CIA
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Apple does not have to share their database with these third party companies, but not only do they choose to do so they also make sure the information is wrong. Apple is, essentially, being unethical on two levels By giving out wrong personal information, the argument could be made that they are protecting privacy. I do not believe saying "associate" is wrong, though. It's a term that is commonly used by HR to refer…
If they wanted to protect privacy, they would only have two responses: "We confirm that this person worked for Apple, ending on [date]. By policy, we don't discuss any further details." "We do not have records that this person worked for Apple."
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
„i leveraged prior experience in ultra-scalable real-time systems at the edge with my people skills to produce X“ type of bullshit is different than „i had this very specific role at a large and known company that is only assigned to people that have demonstrated high levels of skill“, the latter is plain fraud if not true. it‘s like saying „i have a pilot license“ if you don't
Not that I condone it, but can you please point out exactly which laws are broken when you lie on a resume?
it‘s like saying „hey wanna buy this iphone? its totally not a fake!“ when you know it‘s fake.
Re: Every employee who leaves Apple becomes an ‘associate’
#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work for a moderately large software company. We absolutely refer to everyone as associates if we're referring to everyone who works for the company. (Naturally everyone has specific titles as well, which may not be what they refer to themselves on their business cards/at conferences/Linkedin/etc.)
With your company, if a potential employer called up and asked what my job title was (and lets assume your company would give out that info) would they say what my job title was, or would they say I'm an associate?