telegram is an amusement park so just stop using it for sketchy things and have fun! the E2E feature is... there... who cares about it, just load it up for one specific conversation and move on.
Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
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Re: Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
#152People are consistently surprised that Telegram is not encrypted by default in any setting. You have to create a device-to-device-specific encrypted chat with your counter-party. It's not a reasonable security model, vastly outclassed by (the still quite flawed) Signal. Ultimately, we need encrypted-by-default messaging based on public/private key pairs (obscured from the uninterested user, of course).
I don't know however any groups that use signal as a replacement for any of the above, so do people have experience in migrating groups from those platform to signal?
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#153"Telegram is favoured by Jihadists" "Telegram is Russian Spying" "Telegram has extremely weak crypto" "Telegram is used by pedophiles" "Telegram is used by far-right terrorists" .... Use Signal! sigh The amount of times people bash on telegram is becoming painful. But lets take a logical argument; NSA has made it's mission in backdooring basically everything. We know from the Snowden revalations that their technical…
Telegram and Signal are the best we have out of CENTRALIZED solutions. Both are founded by anarchists who like end-to-end encryption and user empowerment. One accuses the other of being less secure and easily backdoored by governments… but the actual problem is — they are both centralized. We don’t even need to resort to conspiracy theories — all Germany would have to do to ban Telegram is make Apple take it out of i…
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's just made by a Russian but the Russian gov is mad at him and he's living abroad.
Exactly. People read "Russian" and freak out without any nuance.
Re: Telegram Became the Anti-Facebook
#155People are consistently surprised that Telegram is not encrypted by default in any setting. You have to create a device-to-device-specific encrypted chat with your counter-party. It's not a reasonable security model, vastly outclassed by (the still quite flawed) Signal. Ultimately, we need encrypted-by-default messaging based on public/private key pairs (obscured from the uninterested user, of course).
Nobody I know gives a shit that it's not E2E encrypted. It's a kick ass instant messenger, that's all that matters to most people. Vastly superior to Signal and others in almost every way.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's just made by a Russian but the Russian gov is mad at him and he's living abroad.
> Russian gov is mad at him citation needed
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#157It's hilarious to watch Americans get triggered at Telegram's success. I'll grab my popcorn.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Other advantages: -not being tied to a phone number -having a desktop app which doesn't suck (sync issues, connection issues, lacking features, is basically a simple proxy for your phone, etc) -allows me to use 3rd party apps -having chat history synced across my apps and devices and backed up. History is immensely important
Checkout Element, it covers all that as well. However, the Desktop App is Electron, so I don't know if you are OK with that
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. People read "Russian" and freak out without any nuance.
Not really strange, given what this country has done on social media to control foreign elections, allegedly, just saying.
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And an app that is small and fast (and a proper desktop app, not some electron).
I'm consistently surprised when I remind myself that Telegram is a Qt app. It's so out of the norm today, when so many things [I use] are bloated Electron apps.