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Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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First and foremost, the constant feeling that time is running out is just the effect of a big marketing machine built to make you vulnerable to their suggestions. Life isn't a race, and certainly not a race for money and things.

At 35 you are not even close to old, and even when you do become 'old' there will still be plenty of time for new things, excitement and fulfillment. It will just look different than when you were 20, and that's a good thing. Most 20 year olds are shallow and certainly not 'fulfilled' in any meaningful way. That's why they spend so much time escaping to festivals, bars and clubs.

Feeling stuck, behind or in the doldrums is normal from time to time. It's a sign that you need a change. If you're single and with half a mil in the bank at 35, you're one of the very very lucky few. You aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck and no-one's dependent so you absolutely have the luxury of time, lots of it!

You can afford to change things up, make some mistakes, and figure it out. Start with a focus on your health: both body and mind. Then you'll naturally get a better perspective on the other aspects of your life, and how to change them for the better.

My life as I currently know it didn't even start until everything I had built fell apart around 40. Since then I've had 2 kids and third on the way, a couple of exciting career changes, built things with my hands, learned entirely new skills, navigated disasters. Just one example - I learned to ski at 40, and over the next few years trying to keep up with my wife I managed to learn enough to be able to do some of the most challenging and beautiful runs in the Rockies.

To be honest I feel younger (at-heart) than when I was 30 and playing by the rules, living for the weekends. There are so many ways you can find fulfillment in life beyond socializing in entertainment venues.

I'm nearing the 50 mark and expect the next decade to be just as full as the last. I probably won't be skiing many double-black diamonds, but you bet I'll be following my kids to the top of the mountain even if it's to wave at them and take the easier way down. I can't even imagine the adventures that face us.

I'm sure you have no idea what's ahead for you, either. Just don't let it be another night on the couch in front of a screen. Look forward.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I’m in my late 40s. Just gone through 15 years of absolute shit with an ex partner and financial chaos. Decided I’d fix it in 2019. Three important things to concentrate on: 1. Health. If that’s off, fix it first. Everything depends on health. Sort out your diet, physical fitness and health and mental health follows. I’m fitter than all my peers and both fitter and healthier than I was in my 20s. Can run a half marat…

This is excellent advice, I couldn't agree more with Health. Everything else will pretty much fall into place once you take care of it. It will be easier to meet people, you will not have mood swings, or lack confidence. Your mind will be sharper and can think better! One thing that gets missed often is spiritual health. I believe it's as equally important as physical and mental health. I'm not advocating for extremi…

One way towards spiritual health is to find wonder in things beyond my control, and for me that is primarily looking at the moon and stars, augmented by walls in the woods and noticing phenology—-what animals are active when, noticing frost on the ground, posting attention to the wind direction by feel, things like this. I don’t ascribe any meaning to any of this, just immerse myself in the observation practice.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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I do not mean to tear down OP, but you are 35 and have $500k in savings. You lived in other countries, had startups and worked at a big company. You are not lost, you are one of the 1%. It sounds like you did a lot and now "normal" life that the rest of have to go through seems sucky. It is. I have years of experience, not 1/5th your savings, have not traveled and now I am actually too old for "big company" to hire m…

What's your age? I know several people between 55-60 that got hired at FAAMG companies

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Not sure if it helps, but I can tell you what I would personally do if I was in your exact situation.

I would live cheaply, I would exercise and train and buy the requisite gear, and then at the next opportunity I would go hike the PCT.

I really want to do it, but with “settling down” on the horizon it looks unlikely that I’ll ever be able to do so.

Maybe you wouldn’t say “hike the PCT” but perhaps you can put yourself in my shoes for a moment and think - what would I regret not being able to do assuming I am settling down 5 or 10 years from now?

If I hadn’t already done so, my answer would have been “backpack around the world.”

I’m sure there are lots of big experiences you could devote some time to, that would in themselves give you the opportunity to gain clarity on what you want.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

#666

Mourning the loss of one’s youth is pretty typical. You lose a step. You didn’t do what you hoped you would do. You wasted your time. So forth and so on. Don’t worry. It gets better. This is all part of the process of life. My recommendation is that you read Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl. “He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.” I’m 52 here. I was a prolific programmer in my 20s. A go-go ma…

I second the "Man’s Search for Meaning" recommendation. That book is great for putting one's struggles into perspective, and emphasizing the importance of a "why."

This book gets recommended a lot probably because it relates to the Holocaust, but it's worth pointing out that "Man’s Search for Meaning" describes itself as "a story". It's not a philosophical book. If you want, you can learn about the development of human thought over time. There is an entire history of philosophy.

"Siddhartha" or "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" might also relate to the meaning of life but they are also not philosophy books. They might be great books but you might be looking for something completely different.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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"But not anymore now. I feel like my time for everything is running out." -> what is this everything you want to have time for? Do you wish to be in a relationship? since you mentioned it at the beginning. When I don't feel excited about the world, similar to what you describe, you meditate or spend time in nature. Reading about geology or trees has opened my eyes about how little we grasp about the nature of the uni…

> what is this everything you want to have time for? Do you wish to be in a relationship? since you mentioned it at the beginning. I don't know to be honest. Perhaps what's nagging at me is the lack of optionality. There are certain things I am now too old to do, like go to a school as typical student, go crazy at festival or clubs, go backpacking and easily meet new people, and have casual relationships. It's not th…

You have the option to do all of these things.

I went back to school in the evenings when I was your age after being unfulfilled in my career. Turns out part-time education is full of people ranging from 20-somethings who chose the wrong career when they weren't working, to 50-somethings who just want to do something else.

I'm 40, most of my friends are mid 30s. When festival season comes around in the Netherlands, you can be damn sure people my age are going out there. Heck, we're the generation that started that when we were teens. Sure, I can't stay up until 6 in the morning anymore, but that doesn't stop us from going out until 3 am and hopping from bar to bar. I'll take the weekend recovering over not being able to go out anymore :)

You're not that old. The option isn't the problem, it sounds like your lack of desire is it. My best advice is take some time off, maybe a year since you've got the reserves, read some philosophy, slow down, figure out what matters to you.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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FWIW, I had a whole skydiving career before I started biking seriously. Drop & roll is not really a viable head injury prevention plan. You’re prepped for a few kinds of accidents with a backpack and trying to roll if/when there’s time, if you’re really lucky, but you’re leaving a mile wide blind spot to many possible accidents that you don’t have control over. Good luck, I hope you don’t have any of those kind of co…

Biking to work is not a skydiving. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35MHUtvIpP8

Obviously. I’m saying that your soviet paratrooper roll training isn’t going to save your head in a bike crash, I know because I’ve done a whole lot of both. Biking to work is the place where you’re most likely to be hit by a car, and thus not be able to roll and not be protected by a backpack.

Hey I’m not telling you what to do, only pointing out that assuming you have control over physics in an accident is a pretty bad assumption, and that telling new riders that a few falls prepares them for non-helmet riding is dangerous advice because it’s not true.

I don’t know where you live, but we all know the Netherlands is famous for having some of the best bike infrastructure in the world, and also for low helmet use. Still, the chances of TBI in an accident in the Netherlands is 2x higher without a helmet than with. https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/neur.2020.0010

In the US, helmet efficacy has been demonstrated repeatedly. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29677686/

You do you, I’m just saying from my perspective, and from actual experience, the single best thing I can do to prevent a serious debilitating bike injury is wear a helmet. It’s by no stretch of the imagination the only thing I can do, and I like some of your other advice you gave. I just think if you care about slippery surfaces enough to lower your seat, or care about cars enough to wear a reflective vest, a helmet sure seems like a good idea.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with getting old and feeling lost?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does trained to fall properly mean? Are you absolutely sure there is such a thing? I doubt that there is, because the human neck is not strong enough to withstand many kinds of flat falls (just watch FailArmy for a while), and assuming you can prevent a flat fall during an accident is a bad assumption. Assuming you can avoid a head-first fall is a bad assumption, and assuming you’re not going to be struck by a c…

Falling safely is a motor skill. The way you "learn" it is by doing it, repeatedly, until your body starts to react in the right way. This is a problem for an adult cyclist on a road traveling at speed. There are consequences to falling. Many of us, however, have had enough experience during our youth on "single-track" to have racked up many falls onto soft ground at low speeds. That certainly helps to a certain exte…

> physics sometimes can present challenges that no human ca adapt to regardless of practice.

Exactly, yes. I have a lot of the motor skill you’re talking about (road cycling, mountain biking, dirt moto biking, skydiving, skiing, etc.). And the more I have, the more helmets seem like a good idea.

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