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Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

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Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again. Obviously the system is not ready for such narrow streets with no line markings and bad visibility. Just don't engage it in such situations. I sure hope that the future iterations of FSD beta will assess the environment and ask the driver to take over sooner.

Don't other manufacturers limit their level 2 systems to mapped and known-good highways? And, for example, my Ford will turn off blue cruise and lanekeeping if it detects it can not handle the environment.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

#53

Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again. Obviously the system is not ready for such narrow streets with no line markings and bad visibility. Just don't engage it in such situations. I sure hope that the future iterations of FSD beta will assess the environment and ask the driver to take over sooner.

I look forward to the new name for the system. 'Totally Self Driving now can drive over 14% of the time, a 4% improvement from Full Self Driving. Look out soon for the next release, Completely Self Driving.'

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Pretty sure most of you do....

We do. But let’s be real. I would say less than 5% of drivers fully stop where I am now, and from living in Boston for a while 0% there. Cue the Boston driver jokes on the Tesla, but that’s just really bad driving there. I do not expect them to get usable self-driving for another 10-15 years at least.

Why is the Boston driver thing such a meme? The NHTSA Region 1, which is New England, has the fewest traffic fatalities per capita and per vehicle-mile. Florida, Texas, and California are twice as bad.

Re: Self-driving Tesla does 'the craziest things you can imagine'

#55
This pretty much matches my experiences too. When it does stuff right it’s great. But then it goes and tries to swerve into a fast approaching car, change lanes in an intersection, decide last minute the turn lane you’re in in actually a straight through lane, checks that the brakes work on a wide open road, etc

I’m sure some people are more comfortable letting the car do these things but I feel it’s just a matter of time until one of them gets in an accident. Of course Tesla would have an out saying the person should have been paying attention, it’s still beta and so on.

I just don’t feel confident the current sensor suite can allow for level 4.

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Who is just driving into cars at stop signs because they stop for an extra two seconds?

Related situation, but not quite the same: I know someone who wrote off their car on the A14 near Cambridge (UK) because they weren’t paying attention in stop-start traffic and rear-ended the one in front. Ironically, she hates Elon Musk and everything he does, so memes about how self driving cars are a terrible idea.

You know what is really ironic? If this person was in a Tesla or similar car with obstacle detection the car would have never let them rear end the one in front in stop-and-go traffic.

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Just to clarify the current process of being able to use the Tesla FSD beta because I've seen a lot of comments by people thinking Tesla released this and cars are now just driving around without a human driver: 1. pay $12k or $200/mo 2. Opt-in for beta. Drive over 100-200 miles and maintain a 98%+ "safety score" until you're selected (could be months) 3. Manually activate FSD each time you want to use it 4. Keep han…

Should this be legal? Some rich Tesla fanboy beta testing buggy software with a misleading name of autopilot or FSD ont he streets where your children walk?

I am not aware of such laws but they shoudl exist, otherwise other companies can start alpha testing with random fanboys.

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If a bicyclist does something wrong, all cyclists are bad. If a driver does something stupid, that driver is stupid. People complain daily about the bad drivers they face during their commute. But that's quickly forgotten. That one time a cyclist did something wrong, however, is etched into memory. Drivers (not cars) kill an incredible amount of people every year, while cyclists virtually none. Cars pollute, make noi…

Sure there are bad drivers but in SF bad cyclists are a matter of routine. Blowing stop signs, red lights at full speed, weaving through cross traffic and riding on pedestrian sidewalks at speed are not regular occurrences for car drivers. Sure I want a full biking city and what not but the cyclists here are such a bad testimony to everyone else that it starts this strong negativity. Being jerks to the pedestrians an…

And how many people did they kill per mile? Cars get an absolute free pass for all the carnage they cause.
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