Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube • Hacker News Board

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kragen » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 12:44 AM UTC

torginus wrote: post #443

kragen wrote: post #438

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Historically though she's done her builds herself, and she's been careful to call out the exceptions where a friend wrote some firmware for her or something. Not sure about video editing, I think she does that herself too. I don't think it's accurate to accuse her of "movie magic".

I have to admit I haven't checked out her recently, but I'm not accusing her of anything - I'm just saying that even if she delegates a part of her work (which is what all successful business people do) it is not a cause for condemnation.

Aside from the wankers, people don't watch her videos because she's a "successful business person", but because she's a maker or because she's demonstrating the capabilities of newly available machinery. The Make Magazine guy's erroneous accusation was that she wasn't really a maker, just a successful business person. He was wrong about that. That's the context in which it would be reasonable to read your comment as an accusation, and, as far as I know, a false one.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by ashwagary » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 12:56 AM UTC

elsjaako wrote: post #423

prawn wrote: post #386

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An alternate perspective is that she dresses how she wishes, and other people ascribe that sex appeal regardless. The most outrageously attired of a group of similarly skilled people is likely to draw the most fans and detractors, whether that was their intention or not.

I'm guessing it's a bit of both, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm a white male, so it's relatively easy to convince people to take me seriously. That isn't a great situation, but noone expects me to downplay that to make things more fair. She has a harder time being taken seriously (as evidenced by the MAKE story), but she's attractive which makes her videos more interesting. I don't think you…

I tend to hold the opinion that a person who doesnt look like "they belong" is among the most likely to have actually earned the right to be there.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by post_from_work » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 12:58 AM UTC

alexisread wrote: post #440

SexyCyborg wrote: post #94

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>That statement seems incongruent with getting breast implants/plastic surgery... Yes, it does seem that way. That's on me until I'm willing to offer a more complete explanation.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but when I visited China (and my brother has said similar with Taiwan), the concept of old/existing was blurry - as an example a temple that has been completely reconstructed and doesn't include any of the original material, is still 2000 years old. I think Terry Pratchett has a similar passage in The Fifth Elephant - this axe, over time may need a replacement head, or the handle may need s…

>>>Morphology of the avatar in your head can be different to your external appearance, ie. you always had large boobs?

I wonder when the Overton window shifted and we began to accommodate insanity. I liked Dave Chapelle's take on this issue in "Sticks & Stones"[1]: if he walked around behaving as if he was ethnically and culturally Han Chinese, nobody sane anywhere in the world would take him seriously. Imagine the response if he applied for PRC Citizenship on the basis of the "morphology of the avatar in his head". It's totally okay to have A Cups. It's insane to assert "well in my head I thought I had D Cups, so just agree with me and treat me as such."

[1] https://youtu.be/jhJDAI7XaAA

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by post_from_work » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:14 AM UTC

xboxnolifes wrote: post #506

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Having the opportunity to get implant surgery and deciding to pursue it is still playing your hand. The same way that being born into a scenario having access to computers and deciding to use them is. Or using makeup. Or being born with a healthy enough body to work out for muscle. Etc, etc, etc.

If that argument (that leveraging any available artificial enhancement is ok) held any conceptual weight, we would embrace PEDs in athletics. We don't. Ask yourself why?

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by seoulmetro » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:14 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

As someone who loves her videos, her physical appearance turns me off watching for any period of time. I would do the same if it were a half naked man showing me tech too.

>so what? that's most of Instagram.

I don't like watching the same physical appearances on places where they belong like TV, Movies or Instagram.... so no that's not "normal". If you merge making erotic cakes and cake baking on YouTube, expect a lot of cake baking lovers to not want to watch. It's just logic.

It just feels forced and is an ugly stain on otherwise awesome videos. But I understand that others might enjoy it.

Reminds me of the guy uploading math videos to a porn site, technically we should rate his work based on the math problem solving and teaching skills but you would be a fool to not recognise the problem of it being only reachable by being on a porn site.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by seoulmetro » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:21 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #339

Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

I wonder what fraction of people here commenting disapprovingly about her choice of wardrobe think YouTube should demonetize videos of bodybuilding competitions, male rock stars, or boxing. Because apparently those are super sexy, though I think the bodybuilding thing appeals to more gay men than to het women. Also apparently a lot of male gamer Youtubers are considered sexy, even though they don't have exaggerated s…

This sounds like you don't understand nudity or context. Which are core principles to this discussion...

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by seoulmetro » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:27 AM UTC

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

You're going to have a hard time convincing any logical person that boobs are not sexual.

That's like thinking that gold is not prized.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:35 AM UTC

seoulmetro wrote: post #526

kragen wrote: post #339

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I wonder what fraction of people here commenting disapprovingly about her choice of wardrobe think YouTube should demonetize videos of bodybuilding competitions, male rock stars, or boxing. Because apparently those are super sexy, though I think the bodybuilding thing appeals to more gay men than to het women. Also apparently a lot of male gamer Youtubers are considered sexy, even though they don't have exaggerated s…

This sounds like you don't understand nudity or context. Which are core principles to this discussion...

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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kragen » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:36 AM UTC

seoulmetro wrote: post #526

kragen wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what fraction of people here commenting disapprovingly about her choice of wardrobe think YouTube should demonetize videos of bodybuilding competitions, male rock stars, or boxing. Because apparently those are super sexy, though I think the bodybuilding thing appeals to more gay men than to het women. Also apparently a lot of male gamer Youtubers are considered sexy, even though they don't have exaggerated s…

This sounds like you don't understand nudity or context. Which are core principles to this discussion...

On the contrary, I think the reason the inconsistency is obvious to me is that I understand nudity and context depressingly well. The relevant context difference is that Naomi is a woman.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by jelliclesfarm » Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:40 AM UTC

naomi's portrayal beggars belief because literally nowhere else in the world can she exist...except i guess Only In China?

to believe that she is a genuine person is laughing on the faces of the women in the RoW. i like naomi wu and her videos, but i would like to believe that she is an aggregate of many people/minds and an entertainer. and that's ok.

if she is real, she is an unreliable/dishonest narrator. if she is a creation, then she is awesome. i would rather prefer that she is a creation of many minds.