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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by albertzeyer »

WesternWind wrote: post #371
Jach wrote: post #325

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A user (I'll leave them unstated) deleted a reply with a metaphor along the lines of "what do you expect if someone wears a clown suit when speaking at a technical conference?" Well, here's her speaking at a tech conference, in "context-appropriate" attire that is neither skimpy nor a clown suit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt1OLgGIqhc In "She wears skimpy outfits sometimes", sometimes is really the operative wor…

If you have the skills, it generally shouldn't matter what clothes you wear. Even if you don't have the skills, it generally shouldn't matter what clothes you wear. Like don't strap knives to your arms, and do wear a good mask, but generally we spend a lot of time policing other folk's bodies and attire, and for what?

It depends maybe on the circles you interact with, but in some circles, people are not taken seriously which try too much to adhere to the conservative business dress code by wearing a suite with tie.

This is actually a common meme:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/fbwnd0/im_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/ajthjb/thi...

https://www.quora.com/What-do-people-think-good-programmers-...

How developers dress really depends on the company and the culture there. E.g. in Germany in many of the conservative older companies, wearing a suite is mandatory, and esp also in all those consulting companies. Also in many of the privatized companies like Deutsche Post, Deutsche Bahn, etc. But then, in other more modern software companies, people would make fun of that.

The idea that you must adhere to some clothing dress code rules is really against the open-minded principles of software developers.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kragen »

badRNG wrote: post #378
kragen wrote: post #344

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I've mostly heard men and women complaining about female nudity, but then you have flashers.

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I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification.

I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interpreted as a threat, such as a flasher, which is a very different situation than posting a video of laser-cutting a dressmaker's dummy.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by naasking »

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

> It is not sexualized because it is just a body part. It takes a man to do the sexualization, so the sexualization isn't the boob, but a man's who is doing the sexualization.

I agree with most of your comment, but I just want to point out that women are also harsh judges of other women who don't fit cultural norms in how they dress or behave. It's not just men sexualizing women and trying to cut them out if they don't fit, it's also women policing other women in this way.

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Post by spacechild1 »

dncornholio wrote: post #304
phendrenad2 wrote: post #148

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"Name three"

Netherlands. Literally all of our classic movies features a dick in plain sight. Yes, even Rutger Hauer shows all his features in Turks Fruit

Same in Germany and Austria. It's not unusual to see fully naked actors on TV, even on the afternoon program. That's because we can see a difference between nudity and (graphical) sex.

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Post by prawn »

raxxorrax wrote: post #349
pm90 wrote: post #336

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This seems like a failure of imagination. Or maybe an expectation of seriousness which can only be associated with certain kinds of people who dress and speak a certain way. The reality is that anyone can be really smart and make “serious” contributions and they deserve to be taken seriously regardless of how they choose to dress or present themselves. We have chosen a certain definition of normality and we can choos…

I think she is a smart woman and that she intentionally uses sex appeal. I actually don't condemn her for that, but to suggest the animosity exists "because of her looks" is dishonest. It is because she uses sex appeal for marketing herself. I am fine with that, but it is what it is. Some people have a problem with that and I doubt that will ever change and there are also good arguments that it is or should be irrele…

An alternate perspective is that she dresses how she wishes, and other people ascribe that sex appeal regardless. The most outrageously attired of a group of similarly skilled people is likely to draw the most fans and detractors, whether that was their intention or not.

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Post by tgv »

chrischen wrote: post #193

For any Westerners here who seem to have a hard time understanding why this is wrong: Look at an even more women-oppressing culture such as that of Afghanistan under the Taliban. Women are required to cover their faces in public. Why? For "modesty." What it boils down to is that if women show their faces it could have a negative effect on men (sexual attraction). A lot of people where are shaming her for being essent…

> A face is not immodest. A boob is not immodest.

"Per se", perhaps. Your reasoning goes like this: sticking up your middle finger or shouting "motherfucker" in someone's face isn't insulting. It's the recipient that makes it an insult. Therefore, it is perfectly civilized to do either.

And we're not talking immodesty. While different cultures may have different limits, that doesn't mean they're too subjective to even pay attention of.

And showing your body is not a quest female empowerment, if only because it would leave the lesser gifted in the shadows. Calling it a quest female empowerment is an absurd word game.

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Post by [deleted] »

tromp wrote: post #321
Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

Review of the slanted 3D printer "Creality CR-30": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSbcUowlNU

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Post by Foobar8568 »

varjag wrote: post #322
Foobar8568 wrote: post #281

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Never been to mainland but I've spent a month working on Taiwan. You ain't going to find perfect English among the sellers on Hsinchu street markets perhaps but many industry professionals have it as good as it gets. What kind of point is that really? Do you think they teach English especially well for CCP members or what? Or is it more along the lines that an attractive foreign female shouldn't be able to speak Engl…

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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by aspaviento »

kragen wrote: post #339
Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

I wonder what fraction of people here commenting disapprovingly about her choice of wardrobe think YouTube should demonetize videos of bodybuilding competitions, male rock stars, or boxing. Because apparently those are super sexy, though I think the bodybuilding thing appeals to more gay men than to het women. Also apparently a lot of male gamer Youtubers are considered sexy, even though they don't have exaggerated s…

I think you haven't heard about the new trend of naked yoga in youtube.
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