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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

penjelly wrote: post #377

never heard of her. Just checked her channel and every episode is her in a tube top and short shorts. Maybe she's technical, but the way shes dressed is clearly with the intent to draw people in sexually. When she leaves the house she puts on a full set of clothes, so even shes consciously aware of how she looks in her videos. From what ive seen, she doesnt deserve demonetization because youtube has worse.. and shes…

> Just checked her channel and every episode is her in a tube top and short shorts. Maybe she's technical, but the way shes dressed is clearly with the intent to draw people in sexually.

No. I look how I've always looked. My clothing is about gender expression and visibility and is common within my LGBT niche. That appearance sometimes helps, it sometimes hurts, I don't object to those followers that like it but I also don't cater to them.

>When she leaves the house she puts on a full set of clothes, so even shes consciously aware of how she looks in her videos.

You mean in the winter? Why would I wear hot pants outside in the winter?

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

geuis wrote: post #173

I don't personally follow the stuff she does but I still support her work and choices she makes. What I'm really concerned about is her safety operating out of China. Just in the last couple of years, we've seen several relatively high profile women either go silent or even disappear without warning in China. She could easily get caught up in some party member's politics net for doing or saying "the wrong thing". If…

Yes

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by elsjaako »

prawn wrote: post #386
raxxorrax wrote: post #349

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I think she is a smart woman and that she intentionally uses sex appeal. I actually don't condemn her for that, but to suggest the animosity exists "because of her looks" is dishonest. It is because she uses sex appeal for marketing herself. I am fine with that, but it is what it is. Some people have a problem with that and I doubt that will ever change and there are also good arguments that it is or should be irrele…

An alternate perspective is that she dresses how she wishes, and other people ascribe that sex appeal regardless. The most outrageously attired of a group of similarly skilled people is likely to draw the most fans and detractors, whether that was their intention or not.

I'm guessing it's a bit of both, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I'm a white male, so it's relatively easy to convince people to take me seriously. That isn't a great situation, but noone expects me to downplay that to make things more fair.

She has a harder time being taken seriously (as evidenced by the MAKE story), but she's attractive which makes her videos more interesting. I don't think you can blame her for using advantages.

From what I've seen of her, she does seem to enjoy being dressed nicely, so I don't think she's only doing it to get views.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kragen »

utucuro wrote: post #418
kragen wrote: post #340

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Probably most of us reason from stereotypes a lot of the time. I'm ashamed to admit I've recommended not hiring a guy I interviewed for a sysadmin job basically because he showed up wearing a suit and tie.

Curious; when did you get started with your career?

01996, but I started programming in 01980. The interview where I was interviewing the sysadmin candidate was in 02004.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SexyCyborg »

prawn wrote: post #415
raxxorrax wrote: post #402

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Of course appeal is subjective, but I believe she calls herself sexy cyborg. Denying intent is almost as offensive as a denial of existence I believe. Although there can be cases like that.

Quoting her: "I look the way I do for myself, and I don't object to any one else's polite enjoyment of that." Considering something like body dysmorphia (as an example) might help give someone benefit of doubt. I'm not going to pretend to understand exactly why someone feels that way.

>Considering something like body dysmorphia (as an example) might help give someone benefit of doubt. I'm not going to pretend to understand exactly why someone feels that way.

Yes, it is something like that. But it's bullshit for me to dance around it and expect some sort of grace. I will say something.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by nihilius »

chrischen wrote: post #275
bayesian_horse wrote: post #247

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I think there must still be some restrictions. Topless nudity is on the verge for me. The only reason why I think there is a case to be made is that so many people around the world DO find it offensive. But that's still a weak argument. Showing primary sexual organs in my opinion is not a question and shouldn't be tolerated in many venues. It is a form of aggression in almost every culture. Even some hunter gatherers…

The issue here isn't about sex at all or sexualization. Sexualization is given as the reason because that's all men can see breasts as. If you look at it from a dog's point of view, or a baby's point of view, it's a source of food or just another thing and you may start to wonder what the big deal is with making breasts bigger or even showing them. The issue of contention here is that women have to adjust their behav…

Breasts are a secodary sex organ. And i dont know how you prefer your intercourse, but i happily fondle with the breasts of my wife during sex. If you break down sex to just reproduction, ofc they are only needed to feed the baby. But culturally the are sexual organs and erotic. So its normal in my (european) culture to hide breasts (at least the nipples) from public.

Edit: I would like to add that its not okay to demonetize Naomi Wus 3D Bust Video. Thats another discussion and i think we are on par here.

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Post by badRNG »

kragen wrote: post #382
badRNG wrote: post #378

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I definitely did not intend to say that Naomi Wu is like a flasher, and I appreciate your implicit request for clarification. I meant that I frequently hear both men and women criticize specifically women for nudity, especially when the critics are from the US, and I very rarely hear them criticizing men for nudity. When men do get criticized for nudity, it's usually in a circumstance where the nudity is being interp…

Gotcha appreciate the clarification. Yeah that's an important distinction between violating some norm regarding how "modest" women are required to be and the overtly violent nature of sexual harassment by men.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by SpelingBeeChamp »

Hold on. Naomi Wu is not demonetized. A video that Naomi Wu created was demonetized, or as YouTube puts it, found to not be suitable for all advertisers.

Creating content on YouTube has been my full-time job for nearly four years. There is a HUGE difference between a channel being kicked out of the Partner Program and a video being 'demonetized.' (Namely, that in the latter case, all of your other videos, past and future, can still earn revenue.)

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by gurkendoktor »

meheleventyone wrote: post #273
Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

Just shows how casually misogynist the world still is. Some of the replies here are pretty shocking

Yet, when people make jokes about dongles it's also misogynist, because sexuality at the workplace makes women feel uneasy.

From a European standpoint, the simpler explanation (in this particular case) is that the US tech scene is incredibly, fascinatingly prude. It feels like even HN users would rather post their DNA and a list of illegal drugs that helped them pass an exam before they'd talk about their sex lives, for better or for worse.

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