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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ericmay »

asdff wrote: post #396
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I don't get why cost of living is factored at all. The biggest expense is typically housing. And if you bought the house, it means the biggest expense is... building equity into an asset you can sell afterward. Keep in mind the engineer who purchased a 2 million house in Palo Alto can sell it for two million, and then move to Ohio to a much cheaper house purchased in cash. The reverse isn't true.

You also pay taxes. But you are right that for the first movers it will be an easy transition into living opulantly in Ohio. The same can't be said for the next generation of workers, who graduate and have no capital accrued from working at bay area rates, and start their careers working for these Ohio based employers at Ohio based salary rates, and since Columbus is experiencing the same lack of supply issue everywh…

But unlike Palo Alto, Columbus can expand in all directions indefinitely. So while it may have housing issues, it would be completely surprising for houses to get as expensive or even relatively as expensive as a place like Palo Alto. Though the downside here is because of car-first urban planning and design we will create our own little version of Houston.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by dang »

ericmay wrote: post #580
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Please don't take HN threads into regional flamewar. It's understandably annoying when people are dissing the place you're from, or you feel they are, but a flamewar like this should obviously not be at the top of the page (where it was stuck after collecting tons of upvotes, as flamewar comments often do), and you shouldn't be breaking the site guidelines yourself when something annoys you. Instead, you should follo…

Sorry, I didn’t intend to start a flamewar. The comments I did see (the specific ones I found to be immature) were what this was meant for, but you’re right. Where you saw a general positive sentiment, I only saw the negative sentiment (like the potato “joke” or “Dayton ruined my life”) and I should have just ignored it ya know? I do attach my exact name and LinkedIn profile to my comments so I hope that it’s clear t…

Appreciated! I know how easy it is for this to happen.

The greater problem is actually caused by the upvotes that such a post attracts, but we can't moderate those very easily.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ericmay »

QuercusMax wrote: post #417
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The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

Sadly Ohio's state government doesn't want to invest in higher education. My father was in the physics department at Kent State University (my alma mater) and I remember him complaining year after year about how the state was cutting funding. Really a shame. Between this, Ohio's shameful anti-LGBTQ laws, and the truly awful racism, it's really like the state is trying to drive people away. I moved to CA 7 years ago a…

> Between this, Ohio's shameful anti-LGBTQ laws

Which ones specifically? I’d like to learn more and this is something that I’ll pester my representative about. For Columbus specifically in day-to-day life I’m curious what effect these laws have. We have gay clubs and actually a reputation as a “gay mecca”. In Columbus we also have the doo-dah parade, a gigantic, corporate sponsored gay pride parade, and lots of drag events like during our big Halloween party.

> and the truly awful racism

Eh you can find racism in all 50 states, California included. People say this but it’s just the news talking that’s coloring your opinion.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by lotsofpulp »

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Ohio has no parental leave laws, especially ones that provide women with automatic 6 to 8 weeks of disability leave for the period before and after childbirth. California does. CA also has other protections beyond federal ones for breastfeeding and other pregnancy related accommodations, and gives employees the right to sit at work if they do not need to stand. I would not raise my kids in a state outside of CA to WA…

> Ohio has no parental leave laws, especially ones that provide women with automatic 6 to 8 weeks of disability leave for the period before and after childbirth. How is this a "personal liberty" thing? This in turn is probably violating the freedom of association that employers have... >breastfeeding and other pregnancy related accommodations, and gives employees the right to sit at work if they do not need to stand…

Of course, there is no free lunch. But nature dictates that if you want society to have workers in the future, women need to make a huge sacrifice.

So you can either worry about the small picture and employers losing a little freedom about who they have to employ. Or you can look at the big picture and realize that for women to maintain financial independence and still be incentivized to have kids, society needs to offer them something.

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Post by coldtea »

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“Cultural hub” is a term for “shows up in movies”. It’s completely irrelevant if you live in the South Bay.

Well, it's not like the South Bay has culture.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

brewdad wrote: post #205
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Some states do an annual safety inspection of vehicles - it's usually more or less "do your turn signals, brakes, and head lights work". Nowadays some states also need to do an emissions check. Some states require it every other year, some states I guess don't really require it at all?

I had to do an "inspection" when I moved to AZ and first registered my car. I dreaded what they might find since it was kind of a heap of junk. The inspection consisted of making sure the VIN matched up on the various locations on the car.

I did that too when buying a car out of state and bringing it to Kansas, but I don't think it was even called a _safety_ inspection. And definitely not an emissions inspection either. :)

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by selimthegrim »

jaystraw wrote: post #32
vavooom wrote: post #6

"largest investment in Ohio's history" "the largest semiconductor manufacturing location on the planet" What is it that makes Ohio such a key and ideal place for such a massive investment? I assume there must be an abundance of energy + work force + land available that makes this possible, as well as a foundation built up by the Rust Belt. Could the Rust Belt go Silicon?

New Albany seems situated nicely for domestic distribution, and also European distribution as it's about 150 miles from Cleaveland. Maybe there's another port it's closer to, I don't know much about Ohio. But if Intel can get chips to Europe more quickly than its Asian rivals, I can see that being a boon for them.

>Cleaveland

Props for sticking to the original spelling

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