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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ensan »

rxhernandez wrote: post #155
N1H1L wrote: post #138

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The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

You forgot Berkeley.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by jscipione »

QuercusMax wrote: post #417
N1H1L wrote: post #138

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The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

Sadly Ohio's state government doesn't want to invest in higher education. My father was in the physics department at Kent State University (my alma mater) and I remember him complaining year after year about how the state was cutting funding. Really a shame. Between this, Ohio's shameful anti-LGBTQ laws, and the truly awful racism, it's really like the state is trying to drive people away. I moved to CA 7 years ago a…

Go Buckeyes!

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ensan »

outside1234 wrote: post #298
rxhernandez wrote: post #155

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I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

Caltech, Stanford, Cal, and Harvey Mudd are on the same tier with Purdue, Michigan, Illinois, CM. The other ones are good schools, but in a distinctly second tier to that group.

That’s such an ignorant statement.

For example, when it comes to hardware & electrical engineering, UCSD alone is as productive as say Purdue & Illinois combined. And it’s a young university too.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by kortilla »

ericmay wrote: post #403

Really disappointed in many of the negative and insecure comments coming from members of this community saying “Ohio sucks” or “Ohio State University sucks because it’s not Stanford” or “how many startups does Ohio have”. It really reflects poorly on those making these comments and I can’t help but think seeing a state not on the east or west coast being selected is causing fear and uncertainty in the lives of those…

The worst thing about threads mentioning the Midwest are these inferiority complex rants. People shit on California, Seattle, New York, etc endlessly on any article mentioning them.

If a state is in the news implying it’s getting something good, people are going to shit on it. You need to grow thicker skin. Otherwise you just end up reinforcing the idea that Ohio residents are delicate and care what the coasts think.

P.s. the tweet you linked to is not about the location

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by galangalalgol »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #481
elihu wrote: post #424

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Most of the complexity of EVs is just generic modern car complexity, though. EVs don't have to be any more complicated than ICE vehicles, and EV conversions especially are usually really simple (though to be fair a lot of the vehicles being converted are old classic cars that didn't have any computers in them to begin with). The EV drivetrain might have more or less computers than an ICE drivetrain, but really managi…

The braking is way way more complex because of regenerative. That isn't a factor with ICE. Trust me - it's not simpler. I know you think we just apply power to the motor and go, but that is not the case. There are facets of "soft start" and it ties in to traction control, there are efficiency processes, etc. Instead of map tables for rpm and injection, you have battery heating and cooling targets with current sensed…

I agree it isn't simpler. I only assert that it could be if you ignored all those efficiency gains from regenerative braking and battery temp management. Things that aren't often in ev conversions. But you made me realize that is apples and oranges, because an ICE that gave up on efficiency could be an old vw beatle with aie cooling and a carburetor. I feel you on the seemingly endless stairway of complexity. I work in embedded safety critical and I often tell people to never do anything in software they could have done in hardware. Hardware is cheaper bat this point...

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by kortilla »

thehappypm wrote: post #508
FullyFunctional wrote: post #498

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This is getting old. I've lived in the Bay Area for 20+ years and guess what, the Bay Area != San Francisco (I personally go to SF less than once every two years).

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“Cultural hub” is a term for “shows up in movies”. It’s completely irrelevant if you live in the South Bay.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by bsder »

pedalpete wrote: post #456
ericmay wrote: post #403

Really disappointed in many of the negative and insecure comments coming from members of this community saying “Ohio sucks” or “Ohio State University sucks because it’s not Stanford” or “how many startups does Ohio have”. It really reflects poorly on those making these comments and I can’t help but think seeing a state not on the east or west coast being selected is causing fear and uncertainty in the lives of those…

Yours is actually the first comment I saw. My thinking was more along the lines of "what a great way to bring more future focused jobs to the mid-west". We're seeing a very promising dispersion of future focused Jobs in the US (btw, I'm not American). While software has been predominantly west coast, and finance in the north east. Don't forget that TI is based in Texas. I believe much of Bio-tech is in San Diego and…

I'm surprised by the location. I would have expected closer to Cleveland to draw from Detroit, Columbus, Cleveland and Pittsburgh and get electricity from the Beaver Valley nuke plant. I'm guessing AFRL/Wright-Patterson and government contracts have something to do with this.

Columbus isn't exactly "low cost of living" except by Silicon Valley standards, either.

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Post by nescioquid »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #515
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Indeed how? If they really mean SF, then write that. Bay Area is much greater and much more than SF. San Jose alone is larger in area and people than SF and Bay Area is much much more than San Jose. I'm trying to spread awareness to people not from here that the two things aren't the same at all. It's bad enough that media convulsively regurgitate the same tired fallacy repeatedly.

Perhaps if you consider that when people speak of the Bay Area, this is sometimes an example of metonymy (or even in another sense, synedoche), you wouldn't feel the need raise everyone's awareness of San Jose.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by mizzack »

3825 wrote: post #191
sfotm wrote: post #163

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I'm an Ohio native that's recently moved back to the Columbus area myself. I know the area pretty intimately. Happy to respond to any questions about the area, as I'd love for there to be a larger tech scene around here.

Two questions, does the area have symmetric gigabit fiber? If so, how reliable is it in your opinion? If not, what is the best option for multiple family members working from home? How are water, electricity, sewage, road condition, utilities situation? Any reasons why a work from home worker might not want to live there?

I pay $70/mo for full duplex gig FTTH thru AT&T in Columbus. Super reliable but not available everywhere. You can get 1gb down/100mb up cable for similar price city wide.

No issues with utilities. Suburbs are better at handling snow removal/road maintenance than Columbus proper.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by pm90 »

someguydave wrote: post #518
pm90 wrote: post #494

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The incredible University systems in the US are an amazing asset… failure to recognize their value by craven businessmen turned Republican politicians that only understand money is going to be one of the biggest tragedies to befall America.

Republicans would probably be happy to support universities if they were no longer under the control of people who wish them ill.

Republicans shouldn’t support policies that the most educated members of society find bad enough to wish ill on them.
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