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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

llbeansandrice wrote: post #261
destitude wrote: post #200

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They are extremely anti-renewable energy though. There was attempt (not sure if it passed) to make wind turbines illegal.

I think this is due to a lot of money in the region coming from things like coal and natural gas. There's a _lot_ of money to be had for folks that just happen to own land that sits above valuable minerals. I've only ever seen billboards for "clean coal" in SE Ohio, SW PA, and West Virginia.

Except there really isn't that much money in Coal - and Ohio doesn't has little of it anyway.

Ohio produces 1/20th the coal of WV - which is a much more economically poor state - and coal isn't even really that important to WV's economy. Ohio's economy is much more similar to PA - and PA produces 10x more coal: https://www.eia.gov/coal/production/weekly/

Coal is all politics.

I mean, it is still used for a lot of energy production - almost everywhere in the US - Ohio definitely: https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=OH.

I'm sure power plants don't want to shut down overnight because someone bans coal completely - and they shouldn't. But it's just not economical in most places - the plants are phasing out naturally almost everywhere.

The less scale there is with coal - the less viable it becomes. It's a vicious cycle.

Power plants naturally phasing out because coal isn't economical will have almost 0 impact on Ohio.

Places like WV - that's a different story. WV sells coal! Ohio doesn't.

Coal also doesn't employ people like it used to. It employs 3,000 people in Ohio: https://www.ohiocoal.com/information-library/history-coal-mi.... That's out of a ~5.4M labor force: https://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.oh.htm. That's ~0.05% of the workforce... Even WV is only ~0.15%...

It's really only important to a few barons who want coal to stick around long after it's economically viable (the governor of WV).

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Post by mikestew »

Bayart wrote: post #176
rxhernandez wrote: post #155

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I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

I know what one of those acronyms means.

If you substitute "University of California" for "UC", you'll be able to decipher a lot more of them if you know your California cities. For example, "UCSD" translates to "UC San Diego". "CP" gets you "California Polytechnical", but good luck sussing "SLO" unless you've been anywhere near San Luis Obispo.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by rybosome »

sfotm wrote: post #239
scruple wrote: post #228

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Just out of curiosity, as another Ohio native who left and sometimes thinks of returning, where did you move back to Ohio from?

I was in Seattle before moving back.

Columbus to Seattle was my journey as well, but I have no intention of going back. What brought you back to Ohio?

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by kragen »

graycat wrote: post #265
kragen wrote: post #204

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Corrected, thanks, I'm an idiot. And I've actually been there .

I was a math grad student at IU. The place had one heck of a good music school, say, comparable to the best in the world. An Isaac Stern protege, later a concert master, violin prof, conductor, etc., put his old Italian violin under my left chin, and I was hooked. Took a violin course; the teacher, one on one, was FAR too good for what I needed and later played the Brahms concerto in Toronto! According to the rules,…

That sounds wonderful! Except for the elementary education majors and the volleyball. Are you still in touch with people there?

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by kragen »

PKop wrote: post #266
kragen wrote: post #243

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What startups has it produced in the last decade? Or, more knowably, the decade before that, 02002–02012?

Root insurance has been a recent one https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/rootinsurance CoverMyMeds another https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/covermymeds-com At least for a Midwest city, investment does seem to be picking up https://news.yahoo.com/columbus-startup-funding-skyrocketing...

That's pretty significant!

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by walnutclosefarm »

hnthrowaway0315 wrote: post #208
kragen wrote: post #172

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Moving to Ohio was one of the worst decisions I made in my life. Dayton is proud of its history of innovation but most of the innovators left for California 50 years ago where innovation was allowed. What's left is the lumbering bureaucracies and sprawling empires that grew from the innovators' products: NCR, the GM plant, Otis.

Aside from Cal, which other State(s) do you consider to be at least growing a culture of innovation? Just curious because might move to US from Canada in the future.

Minnesota's twin cities plus Rochester. Excellent place if you're interested in biomedical, health care technology innovation. Top ranked companies headquartered there, a great university, the Mayo Clinic. Really top notch.

But if you're moving from Canada to escape the cold, Minnesota is not the place to stop. It's a bit warmer than Winnepeg, but colder than Toronto and the rest of Eastern Canada by quite a bit.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by werm82 »

kragen wrote: post #243
werm82 wrote: post #227

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It's one of only 14 cities in the US to gain 100k residents in the last decade.

What startups has it produced in the last decade? Or, more knowably, the decade before that, 02002–02012?

CoverMyMeds, Root Insurance, and Olive are a couple of unicorns.

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Post by fullstop »

mNovak wrote: post #260
fullstop wrote: post #152

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Most people are trying to move in the opposite direction. With that being said, here's a few interesting things about Ohio: 1. Vehicle safety inspections are not required 2. It's very flat, but their flag is the only non-rectangular state flag 3. Due to an oversight (congress never voted -- oops!), Ohio was not officially admitted to the union until 1953. If you want stuff to do within a reasonable distance you might…

Not sure I'd suggest eastern Ohio, that's rural Appalachia, I would not recommend for interesting things.

I was more suggesting that you leave Ohio to do interesting things in the Pittsburgh area.

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Post by robbintt »

mNovak wrote: post #255
mrfusion wrote: post #237

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Low geopolitical risk is probably one of the best factors.

Fun fact, Ohio was supposedly high on the Soviet nuke target list, because of Wright Patterson AFB, which houses the Air Force Research Lab (and aliens). I have an old Soviet invasion map of central Ohio, marking all potential airfields etc.

Yep - one of my classrooms in Ohio was in the old fallout shelter. I saw the signs with radioactive label every morning going into the building. The location is now demolished.
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