Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

Post by dragontamer » Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 7:12 PM UTC

qsmi wrote: post #134

dragontamer wrote: post #83

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A "full node" step is 1/2 the area of the previous. Since area is dimension-squared, 28 x 28 == ~800 area, while 20 x 20 == ~400 area. So 28 -> 20 is a "full node" decrease (ie: twice the transistors). --------- We can see the full-node step from 14nm -> 10nm as well: 14 x 14 == ~200, 10x10 == 100. So its a full node step. The next full-node is 7 x 7 == ~50, which is half of 100. After 7 comes 5, because 25 is half o…

That's an interesting explanation and somehow I never heard it explained that way before. It makes sense if one thinks of the transistor count doubling relative to where that company previously was, and not where the industry is. In the transistor density plot each curve is roughly x^2, but with different initial conditions. https://www.techcenturion.com/7nm-10nm-14nm-fabrication

Post by sanchay » Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 7:14 PM UTC

rotten wrote: post #187

This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Far…

Post by brewdad » Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 7:17 PM UTC

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I'm not sure what #1 means. Can you expand on it? I don't recall ever putting a car through something like that.

Some states do an annual safety inspection of vehicles - it's usually more or less "do your turn signals, brakes, and head lights work". Nowadays some states also need to do an emissions check. Some states require it every other year, some states I guess don't really require it at all?

Post by theandrewbailey » Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 7:19 PM UTC

MrDunham wrote: post #104

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> Does anyone know why Intel would want to build a "mega-site" in the city of Columbus Ohio? My guess would be access to talent and costs. Columbus is more than 2x bigger than Cleveland. Building cars is also an international affair and we see those plants all over the place.

> Building cars is also an international affair and we see those plants all over the place I moved from the Bay Area to Columbus Ohio and, funny enough, there’s a Honda factory about 30 minutes outside of downtown and 45 from the airport.

Post by graycat » Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 7:22 PM UTC

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Ohio is situated on the great lakes and therefore has a lot of cheaply available water, while Arizona does not. Chip production is water intensive. Not to mention the vast expanses of cheap land, and their electricity costs are pretty low as well. These could be reasons.

They're building the plant near Columbus, which isn't near the Great Lakes. If they wanted Great Lakes water they would've chosen Cleveland, which is very close to Lake Erie.