No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

Post by N1H1L » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

penjelly wrote: post #343

drapermache wrote: post #293

I feel like alcohol consumption isn't taken as seriously since its been legalized, but its incredibly destructive. The only thing I've really seen get talked about is driving while drinking. This hits very close to home to me because I am currently taking care of our kids while my wife had to fly across the USA to help with her Uncle's funeral. He was a high functioning alcoholic for many years until he joined AA and…

> I feel like alcohol consumption isn't taken as seriously since its been legalized alcohol was being consumed before first evidence of laws in human society. Ancient mesopotamians drank a lot of beer because it was more resistant to bacteria then other beverages. Unless you meant legalized after prohibition?

Post by kazinator » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #18

mmastrac wrote: post #11

Alcohol is one of the worst "drugs" on a personal/societal harm scale - if we're going to tolerate this at large, we should probably consider legalizing everything else that's less harmful to at least be consistent. While we're at it, let's de-stigmatize the abuse of substances and treat it like a real mental health issue.

> if we're going to tolerate this at large, we should probably consider legalizing everything else that's less harmful to at least be consistent. Please do not decide policy using this kind of reasoning. Maybe we should legalise more stuff, but “worse things are legal” is not a good reason. > A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. — Ralph Waldo…

Post by josephcsible » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

the_only_law wrote: post #200

RobertRoberts wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slippery slope. What happens when a drug addict looking his next fix attacks someone? This is why we have drug laws to start with, was to protect people. There are no simple answers here.

> What happens when a drug addict looking his next fix attacks someone? You arrest and charge them for attacking someone?

Post by nozzlegear » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

chasebank wrote: post #302

You know what's worse than drinking alcohol? Sitting in a chair all day staring at a screen. Why do we need studies for things we've known for centuries? Drink, eat, exercise, all in moderation. Get outside and move often as possible. It's not rocket science.

Post by shawnz » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 4:51 PM UTC

merpnderp wrote: post #93

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if we're going to tolerate this at large, we should probably consider legalizing everything else that's less harmful to at least be consistent. Please do not decide policy using this kind of reasoning. Maybe we should legalise more stuff, but “worse things are legal” is not a good reason. > A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. — Ralph Waldo…

This kind of reasoning is perfect. You remember when alcohol was made illegal in the US? Remember the harm that caused from gangs, uneven police crackdowns on illegal bars, and such rampant criminality that alcohol was quickly re-legalized? The drug war is 100x worse. If we'd been consistent, we'd have dodged 50 years of a brutal drug war that has done so much damage to society, the rule of law, our democratic instit…