HN is a very strange place. Maybe around a week ago people were complaining that 500K that YC puts now into companies is not a lot of money. Now they are complaining that 6$ per month per user in Google Workspace lowest tier is a deal breaker for them.
Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying
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#592This is good. I host a family email domain with G Suite, and every time I've brought up switching away from google I get big pushback from family members on spending any money for email hosting. Google forcing the issue is good, because now I'll have exactly the excuse I needed to switch to Fastmail.
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The long-tail isn't being considered here IMO. Dyn.com (nee DynDNS, in the dialup days) was bought out by Oracle, my nearly 20 year old lifetime VIP account will be terminated in May despite using a few thousand requests per month and in the past highly recommending their extortionately priced but rather excellent global load balancer and enterprise anycast services (to the tune of thousands of dollars per month). Li…
Identical situations, VIP dyndns, all Nexus phones, 3 Pixels and google apps. On the plus side, I can't think of any other free service I use. (Damn, just remembered I use the hobbyist license for fusion360, they are slowly crippling that but not a big bang). What are you going to do for DNS? I just got static DNS for home so I guess I could host my own DNS but the custom gapps domain mail will be a hassle. Maybe jus…
Just to answer one of my own questions. I am tossing up between ProtonMail and Runbox. Both have custom domains for the first paid level tier and I'll get better security to boot. Both take BTC so it comes from my trading account and not the family funds. :)
DNS I'll probably look at when Larry from Oracle kicks the last of the VIPS off dyndns. Looking at hosting on a container in my DMZ. Something I have not done for 20 years. djdns anyone?
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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…
Five months is not short notice, full stop. Even three months I would have a hard time thinking of any reasonable argument. The length of time you've used a service is irrelevant, the question is how much of a lift is it to switch, and nothing on Google Apps would take you anywhere near 90 days to switch out of. I pay something like $65 or $70/yr for O365 Outlook for a personal domain email, and the email is the only…
I found out because I saw it on HN, this page was posted on googles side, last month.
How many people have not even been told yet?
I'd be happy to pay them 120 bucks a year for what I'm getting now, 10 email accounts, of which, one sees actual use.
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Identical situations, VIP dyndns, all Nexus phones, 3 Pixels and google apps. On the plus side, I can't think of any other free service I use. (Damn, just remembered I use the hobbyist license for fusion360, they are slowly crippling that but not a big bang). What are you going to do for DNS? I just got static DNS for home so I guess I could host my own DNS but the custom gapps domain mail will be a hassle. Maybe jus…
I switched from Dyn to Namecheap (who is the registrar for my family domain) for their free DNS service. No issues but we really only use it for e-mail.
I have some domains with Namecheap but I didn't know they would host DNS for me. Thanks I'll look into this.
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> The loss of Youtube purchases; android play purchases, etc. is going to hurt It's basically blackmail: pay the new monthly fee which you didn't agree to when you signed up, or lose access to everything you've already paid for.
I mean, I’m annoyed sure but I’ve gotten over a decade of free service. When I saw the announcement for a half second considered setting up an email server again then remembered what a massive pain in the ass that use to be and just going to pay the fee
I'm getting precisely one value added service over a regular google account - a custom domain.
I dont need any of the other workspace related frippery, I don't want it, it makes some of the features of the account harder to use - it was better before it had the notion of an organization even.
I just want to be able to create some gmail accounts under my domain, I'm not a business, I'm a guy who handed out email accounts to his friends, now I gotta figure out if any of them are using them still.
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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? People always complain about bait and switch tactics. Give them a way to revert to a free personal account without losing access to their files, data, and any digital goods they may have purchased and let them decide if they want to covert to a paid account or not.
You can always use Google Takeout so you don't lose access to your files.
How do I migrate my domains purchased under my google workspace account?
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#598I'm surprised so many of you are upset by this. I use a paid email for the custom domain (not gmail) but I feel like they're requesting a pretty reasonable fee after such a long time of free usage.
I think the big outrage is directed at losing all the apps, movies, books, etc... that you purchased from Google using that account. It feels like they should provide some way of transferring those purchases to another account.
yeah that makes sense actually.
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#599I am old enough to remember that Microsoft also had a similar free email product for custom domains called Microsoft live mail or something like that. In fact, you can still find articles on the internet about how to move from Microsoft to Google workspaces when Microsoft killed their free product. I think even the users of this product knew that email with custom domain is a premium product that pretty much no email…
I still have an old Exchange Friends & Family thing that a buddy working for MS set me up with ~14 years ago; I just pay for the domain and set up some DNS records at that time. I haven't really used it for anything, but checked now and it still works, though appears to be half-broken once you venture beyond email & calendar (presuming the SKU is long gone so they did a half-ass migration to something at some point).
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You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?
> The loss of Youtube purchases; android play purchases, etc. is going to hurt It's basically blackmail: pay the new monthly fee which you didn't agree to when you signed up, or lose access to everything you've already paid for.
This is very troublesome... It is possible to create a general, personal Google account using any email address (iirc) so I wonder if it is possible to just migrate to your own email solution (since you own the domain) and keep the google account, or at least migrate it to a regular account.