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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by zeagle » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:37 AM UTC

wombat-man wrote: post #260

I'm surprised so many of you are upset by this. I use a paid email for the custom domain (not gmail) but I feel like they're requesting a pretty reasonable fee after such a long time of free usage.

I'll give you my perspective. I migrated away from GMail years ago for my domain. MX records point to the other host. I have all their core services turned off except Maps and Drive (I don't host anything). I only keep the account because I have 9+ years of play store purchases attached. At the least they need to provide a way to move purchases from a legacy account to a regular account in this process.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:39 AM UTC

cosmotic wrote: post #276

My retired mother and retired father are both considered "users" and so are my numerous service accounts. This will cost me almost a thousand dollars a year for three actual humans that use the service for nothing more than gmail.

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by fishbacon » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:41 AM UTC

Searched my inbox and I cannot find anything like this. But it does seem I need to make some changes. Lucky for me I only ever used email mostly because it is convenient. Odd that they haven't sent me anything.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by embeng4096 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:43 AM UTC

newman314 wrote: post #506

embeng4096 wrote: post #497

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Imapsync maybe? I haven't personally used it, though I did previously buy it thinking it would download to local machine -- it transfers between accounts using IMAP which wasn't my intent but sounds like it is yours. https://imapsync.lamiral.info/

Thanks. I realized that I was just reading about GMail backups a few days. Here are some repos that I happened to star on GH. * https://github.com/gauteh/lieer * https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync * https://github.com/joeyates/imap-backup

Thank you!

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:43 AM UTC

KallDrexx wrote: post #248

jfengel wrote: post #239

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Thanks for the tip. I went to admin.google.com and I don't see anything there, either. Maybe it's rolling out?

Sorry I wasn't clear :). I went to admin.google.com -> manage subscriptions and saw that I am on G Suite legacy, so therefore inferred this does impact me.

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by mike503 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:49 AM UTC

hammyhavoc wrote: post #305

mike503 wrote: post #158

If you have a Google registered domain don’t they throw in Workspace for free? Is that a possible way to continue keeping at least a single base account alive without paying per month? Otherwise I guess I’m going to look at using something to forward emails to my free Google account (Cloudflare now has email forwarding…)

Unfortunately, you can't use your domain for outbound email though, right?

when doing forwarding, yeah, it doesn't look like it. When I tried to add an alias on my gmail.com it asked for my SMTP account. I guess maybe I've never done that off a free gmail before (just paid / grandfathered Workspace ones!) - so it'll work well for anything inbound that's needed. But yeah, if you need outbound, still an open. Still assuming Google Domains allows you a basic Workspace account though.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by 300bps » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:50 AM UTC

Kalium wrote: post #504

signal11 wrote: post #499

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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…

> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…

How long a notice period is long enough?

Looking at it another way, Google's most recent net profit is $18.94 billion per quarter.

I have no idea but if there are 1 million G Suite Legacy accounts out there at $60 per year. That would increase their revenue $60 million per year.

So just assume all that revenue is net profit which would make their quarterly net profit go from $18.94 billion to $18.955 billion for the low cost of pissing off 1 million people.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by karmasimida » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:51 AM UTC

SteveNuts wrote: post #83

Google is really on a killing spree lately. Can any insiders give us insight into whether the people at the top of Google are aware that they have a strong reputation in the community for killing things off?

Frankly speaking, most people out of HN don't care.

Not this is a good or bad thing, but this news make no sense to 99.9% of their customers.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by coolspot » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:55 AM UTC

theossuary wrote: post #226

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

Check out https://360.yandex.com/business/tariff .

They have a free “limited” plan that should be good just for a custom domain email.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by spear » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:57 AM UTC

mianos wrote: post #452

quesomaster9000 wrote: post #152

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The long-tail isn't being considered here IMO. Dyn.com (nee DynDNS, in the dialup days) was bought out by Oracle, my nearly 20 year old lifetime VIP account will be terminated in May despite using a few thousand requests per month and in the past highly recommending their extortionately priced but rather excellent global load balancer and enterprise anycast services (to the tune of thousands of dollars per month). Li…

Identical situations, VIP dyndns, all Nexus phones, 3 Pixels and google apps. On the plus side, I can't think of any other free service I use. (Damn, just remembered I use the hobbyist license for fusion360, they are slowly crippling that but not a big bang). What are you going to do for DNS? I just got static DNS for home so I guess I could host my own DNS but the custom gapps domain mail will be a hassle. Maybe jus…

I switched from Dyn to Namecheap (who is the registrar for my family domain) for their free DNS service. No issues but we really only use it for e-mail.