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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by snowl »

beagle3 wrote: post #425
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

IIRC migadu.com is $9/month, but that includes essentially unlimited domains and mailboxes (but only mail, nothing else, which seems to fit your use case). Which means, if you like to set up new domains for specific projects, there's no extra cost (other than registering the domain of course). Have never had a spam problem, but they stress that they don't consider themselves mission critical. I went with fastmail for…

It's actually only 19 dollars a year :)

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by minton »

wdtrsd wrote: post #436
apohn wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something I just discovered is that Office 365 Family only lets you use custom domains if they are hosted by GoDaddy. If you want to use another domain registrar you have to get Microsoft 365 Business, which has a similar price as Google Workspace :( There's no way I'm moving my domain to GoDaddy.

There are reddit posts showing how to bypass the Godaddy requirement. I used them to setup Office 365 for my family. I have since moved the family emails to icloud mail since we already pay for icloud+ and I get multiple domain support, and aliases.

I have considered moving to iCloud as well. How do you find the UX? It has been a decade+ since I used the Mail app but I don’t have fond memories.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by Kalium »

signal11 wrote: post #499
l33tman wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…

> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring.

For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade?

I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation.

> By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts for a while now. What do you think the perception will be if Google asked them to pony up $60 a year with 5 months’ notice?

Probably about the same as if Google asked them to pony up $60 a year with a year's notice. Which is to say incredibly hostile because people have come to view free Gmail accounts as a basic public service for which no payment will ever be required under any circumstances.

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Post by newman314 »

embeng4096 wrote: post #497
newman314 wrote: post #488

FML. Does anyone have a good tool to extract emails from Google Apps? I literally only use Apps for custom domain email and a placeholder static website. It's certainly not worth $72 a year for it. I saw that someone had posted that iCloud supports custom email domains so I suppose that's an option but now need to figure a way to migrate from Google to iCloud. Found this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514 One…

Imapsync maybe? I haven't personally used it, though I did previously buy it thinking it would download to local machine -- it transfers between accounts using IMAP which wasn't my intent but sounds like it is yours. https://imapsync.lamiral.info/

Thanks.

I realized that I was just reading about GMail backups a few days. Here are some repos that I happened to star on GH.

  * https://github.com/gauteh/lieer
  * https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync
  * https://github.com/joeyates/imap-backup

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by enobrev »

bmarquez wrote: post #495
enobrev wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"paid for"?

The paid Android apps, YouTube purchases, etc which the parent commenter bought using his account. If it was just email hosting (the GSuite service itself), it wouldn't be such a big deal.

I misunderstood. Thank you for the clarification.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by quintes »

apohn wrote: post #379
theossuary wrote: post #226

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

Something I just discovered is that Office 365 Family only lets you use custom domains if they are hosted by GoDaddy. If you want to use another domain registrar you have to get Microsoft 365 Business, which has a similar price as Google Workspace :( There's no way I'm moving my domain to GoDaddy.

Looks like only one domain can be connected on this

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by mjg59 »

mgraczyk wrote: post #49

I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

Google employees are entitled to a discounted tier ($0.75 per user per year, I think), and that will continue even if you leave the company.

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Post by fomine3 »

pcarolan wrote: post #143
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

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