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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by dylan604 »

javagram wrote: post #262
dylan604 wrote: post #176

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If you pay, do they stop scanning all of your emails?

There are no ads in the paid edition of G Suite. They actually stopped scanning emails for ads in free Gmail about 5 years though. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/26/google-wi... Of course, both offerings still scan your email for spam filtering, as all major providers do.

Where's the pay out for G to keep free Gmail then? I never read that the stopping of scanning was for the free accounts. I had only understood it to be for those that paid for the GSuite. Are we really to believe that Googs is operating Gmail for free with no hoovering of data to offset the cost of the service?

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Post by easton »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #388
easton wrote: post #342

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You get Exchange with the Microsoft offering, which offers things like (good) calendars and contacts, and push email to your mobile phone, which you could do with IMAP but many of those shared hosting platforms didn't have to begin with. Exchange is $1 per month, which is perhaps a little more than shared hosting but you get way more features.

Are you saying office365 email is $1/month? Source please as thats way lower than I recall or found in a search. Cheapest seems to be $4 US p/m/u https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/exchange/compa...

That’s what I was thinking of, sorry I got it that wrong. I could’ve sworn there used to be a frontline plan that was something lower than that, but now I can’t find it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by zuccs »

I have no issues paying for email hosting with Google (and already do on some domains), but how are people dealing with shared company email addresses with access to things like Google Analytics, Google My Business, etc.?

If that shared email address is google@yourdomain.com, and Google suspends that Google account on July 1st, how are you supposed to disconnect it from G Suite and sign it up as a free Google account (no Gmail)?

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Post by mgraczyk »

michaelmrose wrote: post #398
mgraczyk wrote: post #278

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This would not be a 20% project, it would require at least 2 engineers full time for several months. I'm not even a web developer.

Its a man year to migrate per user 10 Google app accounts to 10 Gmail accounts? That seems... wrong. Do you actually work at Google?

I do, and I'd encourage you to try to ship a user-facing feature that transfers control of user data between different authentication users at a big tech company if you're skeptical.

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Post by pxx »

samueldr wrote: post #150
mgraczyk wrote: post #49

I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

Any idea if they'll make a "gmail.com" account migration utility down the line? This is extremely concerning for Play store purchases, and anything non-email attached to the "google apps for your domain" account, like YouTube.

Afaict your account will still exist, just not be linked to mail (which I get), but also not linked to calendar (which I don't get). See the email: "You may still retain access to additional Google services, such as YouTube and Google Photos."

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Post by angus-prune »

samueldr wrote: post #150
mgraczyk wrote: post #49

I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

Any idea if they'll make a "gmail.com" account migration utility down the line? This is extremely concerning for Play store purchases, and anything non-email attached to the "google apps for your domain" account, like YouTube.

I dug into this with support and the docs.

When you cancel workspace, the accounts remain active but lose access to just the workspace features (gmail, drive, docs, calendar etc). The accounts will remain the same for things like google play, youtube etc and you won't lose access to any purchases.

The biggest impact I can see, other than the headache of migration, is that former GFYD email address can NEVER be used for docs, drive etc, even on the same terms as a free personal account.

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Post by Doctor_Fegg »

throwawayboise wrote: post #136
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #90

I have a hard time remembering the last time something positive came from G. - a former Internet darling company that could do no wrong.

Their maps and turn-by-turn navigation are still the best.

Guessing you’re not a cyclist!

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Post by angus-prune »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #17

I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

I've posted this comment a few times in these threads. I'm in a same boat and did some digging with support and through the docs.

When you cancel workspace, the accounts remain active but lose access to just the workspace features (gmail, drive, docs, calendar etc). The accounts will remain the same for things like google play, youtube etc and you won't lose access to any purchases.

The biggest impact I can see, other than the headache of migration, is that former GFYD email address can NEVER be used for docs, drive etc, even on the same terms as a free personal account.

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Post by binkHN »

michaelmrose wrote: post #395
y4mi wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not just googlers, the legacy accounts where available to everyone at the start. but the venn diagram overlap of people * willing to pay for such a tool, * not having switched to another provider since * and not willing to start paying for it now will be tiny

It was free for 10 accounts. The number one massively applicable use case vs plain google accounts was vanity domain names and signing up was no harder than creating a regular gmail account. There are probably more vanity domain users than small businesses with 10 people. In fact I would venture to guess with the 10 address limit they are nearly 100% of the remaining users on the legacy program. The cost of the domai…

I agree with everything you posted here! With one exception. The number of accounts, originally, was unlimited—you just needed to request them.

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Post by OmegaPG »

yaacov wrote: post #81

> As of December 6, 2012, Google stopped offering the free edition to new customers. 10 years of a free product is not bad

This.

It will definitely hurt us financially as we have around 10 domains with 20 email ids. We can't delete them due to older emails but can't complain as Google did allowed free account for 10 years.

I hope there is a service Migration of emails from Gmail to other platforms.

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