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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by digital_voodoo »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #236
theossuary wrote: post #226

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

> But I have no idea what the migration of a decade of email across 5 inboxes will look like; not to mention Calendar and contacts. Contacts and Email seems to be the easy part: you can download the emails via IMAP to a client like Thunderbird, and the re-upload them on a new account. Years ago I did this transferring from one G Suite account to another for a friend, worked very well. Contacts can be exported in CSV…

Are you sure about the re-uploading part? I've had an issue like that last week, and am currently stuck with my mails locally, not able to 'put them back' to the IMAP server. Not Gmail though.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by agentx3r »

acegopher wrote: post #67
mgraczyk wrote: post #49

I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

I was an early "GMail for domains" user, and have felt abandoned as there are services in Google Home I can't use as a "Workspace" account. I would gladly transition to a @gmail.com account and just do an email forward, which is why I had originally signed up, IF ONLY GOOGLE WOULD HAVE A MIGRATION TOOL. They pushed my family into Workspace as they abandoned us, and give us NO OPTION to transfer 13+ years of history.

Yes, making me migrate manually means I'm very likely to migrate to Outlook365

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by area51org »

nighthawk454 wrote: post #217

"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further". The problem here is there's no way out now. If 15 years ago you made the mistake of wanting gasp a domain for your email, you're basically roped into paying now. Almost everything a free G Suite user wants is identical to the free @gmail account, which is remaining free. Except the custom domain. Fine - but there's no way to just lose the custom domain at t…

You're not roped in (good, albeit not free, alternatives exist), but yeah, this is just a fuckover.

I've been paying google for GDrive for some time now, and that's about to end. It's back to Dropbox. I know, I don't have to do this, but the hell with google. I'm done. This is nothing short of a needless f---over, and I want as little to do with them as possible.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by SergeAx »

I don't know if it was inevitable, but I do not share a sentiment here. Supporting domain mail with web interface and services around is costs resources, and Google have no obligation spending it forever. It was a nice gift and I feel grateful. I also feel it is a perfect time to try out new CloudFlare's domain email forwarding service, while it is free.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by hnarn »

Cool, finally an excuse to spend some time to completely exclude Google from my life. Get f***ed.

It’s been bothering me for years how nothing about Google Apps is smooth, the accounts are consistently not treated like “normal” Google accounts (for example, you can’t buy Youtube Premium even if you wanted to), and I guess I should have seen the writing on the wall.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by mgraczyk »

webmaven wrote: post #234
mgraczyk wrote: post #49

I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

> Obviously our use case isn't that common (it's been "legacy" for years) but still annoying to know that there's probably some script I could run to do this, but nobody has built the web UI for it. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 20% time project. Surely you aren't the only Googler in this situation?

This would not be a 20% project, it would require at least 2 engineers full time for several months. I'm not even a web developer.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by arbitrage »

uallo wrote: post #203
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

https://protonmail.com/

Didn't proton's compliance canary die not too long ago?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by someguydave »

babycake wrote: post #137

So for regular users, does this mean my google docs, sheets, photos will be gone? What is G Suite vs Workspace? Or will all my docs be ported over and I'll still have access?

Yes I would like to know this too. from the fairly useless google support doc:

"How does the upgrade affect my current G Suite legacy free edition subscription? Your current G Suite legacy free subscriptions and related services will continue to function as they do today, until you self-upgrade or we upgrade you automatically to one of the new editions."

So does this mean I lose all of my google gmail, photos, sheets, drive, YouTube etc or not?

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