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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

> Obviously our use case isn't that common (it's been "legacy" for years) but still annoying to know that there's probably some script I could run to do this, but nobody has built the web UI for it. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 20% time project. Surely you aren't the only Googler in this situation?

Its not just googlers, the legacy accounts where available to everyone at the start.

but the venn diagram overlap of people

    * willing to pay for such a tool, 
    * not having switched to another provider since
    * and not willing to start paying for it now
will be tiny

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

Aruba. Biggest hosting provider in italy has a very competitive mail service. Domain + 5 mailbox x 1gb each at 9 euro/year. At 20 Euro year you can create unlimited mailboxes x 1gb each. https://hosting.aruba.it/en/email.aspx

I don't think you can compare in any way Aruba mail service against Gmail. Even just for the webmail or the mobile app.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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> And now we're being forced to pay for something that everyone else gets for free. > Just looks like most of our accounts are going to get deleted or are going to have to pay $6/month for nothing. Am I wrong or are you paying that $6/mo for having the gmail UI in front of your custom domain? Doesn't really seem like nothing.

You can have this exact thing cheaper if you set up a server and forward your mail to Gmail. And you'll also have a server to host a website or whatever else.

Back in 2010 this was reasonable. Now? Anti-spam functions have become quite the specialty, with DNS and email strongly intertwined. And that's all on top of the already significant burdens to run a non-relay hacker-proof server. There's a lot going on to operate reliable basic services on the Internet today.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#244
Is this google scraping the bottom of the barrel ? That would be a worrying sign

And it doesn't help that navigating "google business account" is a nightmare. I m looking how to edit aliases to an email account, there's no option to edit it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I’ve found Zoho to be fantastic. They offer good value, some extra shit if you want it, and you can bring your own domain. I think it’s about $35 USD a year.

Zoho offers a "Free Forever Plan" which allows one domain. It's excellent. I actually prefer their web UI to Gmail.

Free Forever*

* - while the current Terms of Service last

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> And now we're being forced to pay for something that everyone else gets for free. > Just looks like most of our accounts are going to get deleted or are going to have to pay $6/month for nothing. Am I wrong or are you paying that $6/mo for having the gmail UI in front of your custom domain? Doesn't really seem like nothing.

Regular gmail supports pop for this. I set up the email accounts on my web host, and then put the credentials into gmail.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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This is the first I've heard of this as well. I went to admin.google.com and verified that this does impact me. Glad I check HN I guess??

Thanks for the tip. I went to admin.google.com and I don't see anything there, either. Maybe it's rolling out?

Sorry I wasn't clear :).

I went to admin.google.com -> manage subscriptions and saw that I am on G Suite legacy, so therefore inferred this does impact me.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#249

I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

I mean have you used Microsoft suite these days? If you don't renew your subscription they lock you out - terrible business practice but I guess a "brilliant" way to ensure you get paid for your product. Drives me crazy because my parents are confused and then I have to go rescue their documents. I think that's one reason why everyone was using G-suite ... now where will they go. Latex (/S .. latex is great but not practical for business users).

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can have this exact thing cheaper if you set up a server and forward your mail to Gmail. And you'll also have a server to host a website or whatever else.

Back in 2010 this was reasonable. Now? Anti-spam functions have become quite the specialty, with DNS and email strongly intertwined. And that's all on top of the already significant burdens to run a non-relay hacker-proof server. There's a lot going on to operate reliable basic services on the Internet today.

This is true. I tried forwarding email going to my domain to Gmail, but it keeps getting flagged as spam despite setting up SPF, DKIM and DMARC. I ended up just setting up a filter to never send email addressed to @mydomain.com as spam and hope SpamAssassin catches most spam before Postfix forwards it.
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