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Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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I've started using my own domain to avoid giving out my "real" addresseverywhere. It doesn't always work, but it usually does.

Why doesn't it always work? I'm also using my own domain, not sure why'd that ever 'not work'.

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post #4

Is iCloud's "Hide My E-mail" on the list too?

No. Apple's "Hide My Email" uses the same `icloud.com` domain as the rest of their email addresses (unless you're using the "Sign-in with Apple" feature which uses `privaterelay.appleid.com`).

Blocking `privaterelay.appleid.com` would be kinda pointless since you'd be breaking your "Sign-in with Apple" feature, but if you don't support that feature you could block it (theoretically, one could create a login for SiteA and use the private-relay address for SiteB). Blocking `icloud.com` would mean blocking lots of legitimate email addresses along with the hidden ones.

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

#53
post #13

How about blacklisting Gmail? They're a major source of spam.

This is not outside of the realm of possible. Google does nothing to stop spammers, makes up their own non-public rules and doesn't communicate with the Internet community, so Gmail addresses are already on shaky grounds. For instance, for starters, go search through all of your email for any email sent from Google servers where the "Reply to:" doesn't match the "Mail from:", and tell me if there are any legitimate i…

It's really difficult creating a fake google account nowadays

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post #17

I use 33mail.com which forwards (and can block) wildcard email addresses. There’s a free tier, but with paid you can option use your own domain.

Anonaddy [0] is much better. They are open source, support PGP key encryption, and more. 33mail is blocked more places on the web...

[0] - anonaddy.com

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

#55
post #18

Cloudflare should offer disposable addresses on your own domain. One click enablement. Why not.

Because Cloudflare are abusive, money-driven and monopolistic, perhaps?

Could you expand on the “abusive” part? I get the other two to an extent since it’s a for-profit company.

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

#56
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m the founder of a small bootstrapped SAAS and people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. We don’t sell any data.

Recently, I wanted to try a web service but they did not let me register with a disposable email address. Well, I guess I will not try the service then.

And how would you protect your service from users that just sign up with disposable Emails for the 7 day trial over and over again?

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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post #5
post #2

if you're having issues with disposable emails, you need to either add phone verification or make it so people can try your service (or view prices!) without signing up

phone verification sucks, though. I refuse to use anything that has it mandatorily. And disposable emails are also a problem because of spam.

Yeah, Instagram started demanding a phone number for my personal account that I've had for many years. I just stopped using Instagram.

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m the founder of a small bootstrapped SAAS and people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. We don’t sell any data.

But why would having a "valid" email address help you more getting payment? At most you may send reminders, but even then, those may end up in a spambox? Even once you've verified the email, you have not much of a guarantee it will stay verified/working long. That's more the subscriber's problem, if they want to continue to use your product.

Probably it is not the validity of an Email but the fact that you can use many disposable Emails and misuse the free tier / trial.

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not outside of the realm of possible. Google does nothing to stop spammers, makes up their own non-public rules and doesn't communicate with the Internet community, so Gmail addresses are already on shaky grounds. For instance, for starters, go search through all of your email for any email sent from Google servers where the "Reply to:" doesn't match the "Mail from:", and tell me if there are any legitimate i…

It's really difficult creating a fake google account nowadays

As someone who gets spam from various Gmail accounts on the daily I'm not inclined to believe it's that difficult.

Re: Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist

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post #40
post #4

Is iCloud's "Hide My E-mail" on the list too?

I think as long as it's just INCOMING email, what's the harm in it?

People can use it to sign up for things like discord and then use that to spam. Though I guess even Gmail could be used for this
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