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Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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> "I simply wish to direct your attention at how utterly different the two companies are." >"Me? I’d be appalled if Apple were to unveil something in the half- (if that) finished state of Windows 8 for tablets. I enjoy writing about what’s real" What Gruber claims to understand, but actually doesn't, is that the Microsoft ecosystem is a very different beast than the Apple ecosystem. Microsoft, unlike Apple, does not…

Not to defend Gruber here (since for some reason he is unpopular on HN), but I think that he does understand what you claim he doesn't. The point of his polemic is not that Microsoft is fundamentally different than Apple in approach and execution. Anyone can see that plain as day. It's not obfuscated in the least. The question is: which approach is right? Removing for a minute the preconceptions of "that's just how t…

>Not to defend Gruber here (since for some reason he is unpopular on HN)

Is that why many of Gruber's posts are consistently upvoted on HN?

Out of all that was displayed during the keynote, he got only one thing to dwell on.

The demo tablet given out has a fan and gets hot? That is like criticizing Windows because Dell makes a pink laptop. There's going to be immense choice.

And this going to put pressure on Intel and other OEMs to reduce heat and power consumption to get closer to ARM.

What if you want a more powerful iPad? You're SOL.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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> "I simply wish to direct your attention at how utterly different the two companies are." >"Me? I’d be appalled if Apple were to unveil something in the half- (if that) finished state of Windows 8 for tablets. I enjoy writing about what’s real" What Gruber claims to understand, but actually doesn't, is that the Microsoft ecosystem is a very different beast than the Apple ecosystem. Microsoft, unlike Apple, does not…

Microsoft cannot afford secrecy because they are so far behind. When this thing ships Apple with be halfway through their third generation.

I think Microsoft does not have secrecy because they have lots of OEM partners who want to develop for the platform before its released.

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>What strikes me about Thurrott’s tweet is that the two companies have attracted the writers they deserve. Me? I’d be appalled if Apple were to unveil something in the half- (if that) finished state of Windows 8 for tablets. I enjoy writing about what’s real. I can't believe that Gruber can write such self-satisfied tripe without more self-awareness. His quote is more true than he realizes - the incredible smugness o…

I guess smugness is in the eye of the beholder. It's not smug when Thurott says "Hello, Windows 8? This is iPad. You win."? It's not smug when Ballmer dismisses every Apple product when it's released only to watch that product become a smash hit? Don't get me wrong Gruber's smug as all hell in this piece but Apple itself? I'm not so sure that shoe fits although a couple examples come to mind (like Steve's projection…

they're both smug - what's confusing to me is why anyone who is not a major shareholder of these enormous corporations has feelings about these relatively boring narratives.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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>What strikes me about Thurrott’s tweet is that the two companies have attracted the writers they deserve. Me? I’d be appalled if Apple were to unveil something in the half- (if that) finished state of Windows 8 for tablets. I enjoy writing about what’s real. I can't believe that Gruber can write such self-satisfied tripe without more self-awareness. His quote is more true than he realizes - the incredible smugness o…

I guess smugness is in the eye of the beholder. It's not smug when Thurott says "Hello, Windows 8? This is iPad. You win."? It's not smug when Ballmer dismisses every Apple product when it's released only to watch that product become a smash hit? Don't get me wrong Gruber's smug as all hell in this piece but Apple itself? I'm not so sure that shoe fits although a couple examples come to mind (like Steve's projection…

>It's not smug when Thurott says "Hello, Windows 8? This is iPad. You win."?

The difference is that only Gruber's posts get highly upvoted on HN. Thurrott? No one cares.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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I think the reasoning behind the newer Windows phone OSes being a "breath of fresh air" is not so much that they're 100% original (what is?) or mind blowing. It's refreshing because it is, simply put, different . Android and iOS much more closely resemble each other than either resembles any recent Windows phone OS. That's my take, anyway.

Android much more closely resembles iOS. That's my take, anyway.

They both resemble this more than anything.

http://images.yourdictionary.com/images/computer/_PROGMAN.GI...

That is why Metro is such a breath of fresh air. If it came from Apple everyone here would be praising Apple for breaking the status quo, being the UI disruptor, etc. etc.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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I guess smugness is in the eye of the beholder. It's not smug when Thurott says "Hello, Windows 8? This is iPad. You win."? It's not smug when Ballmer dismisses every Apple product when it's released only to watch that product become a smash hit? Don't get me wrong Gruber's smug as all hell in this piece but Apple itself? I'm not so sure that shoe fits although a couple examples come to mind (like Steve's projection…

they're both smug - what's confusing to me is why anyone who is not a major shareholder of these enormous corporations has feelings about these relatively boring narratives.

because it's like becoming a devotee to a religion.

Most people, instead of being the star of their own lives, want to follow a cult or religion or leader.

That's why people get such strong illogical feelings about a brand.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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Only an apple fanboy can side with an opinion based on the color scheme and visual appearance of the site. :)

Note to self: Never make a joke about apple fanboys. They might have a better sense of design but poor comedic sense and would slam you down with downvotes.

Generally if you have to explain to someone that it was a joke, it was a bad joke.

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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>"I enjoy writing about what’s real." Then why was he writing about iOS 5 from a long time? And I guess the below is a figment of my imagination. http://wdp.dlws.microsoft.com/WDPDL/9B8DFDFF736C5B1DBF956B89...

Is this a link to just the tablet or does it come with extra batteries & a charger as well?

Re: All His Life Has He Looked Away, to the Future...

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I guess smugness is in the eye of the beholder. It's not smug when Thurott says "Hello, Windows 8? This is iPad. You win."? It's not smug when Ballmer dismisses every Apple product when it's released only to watch that product become a smash hit? Don't get me wrong Gruber's smug as all hell in this piece but Apple itself? I'm not so sure that shoe fits although a couple examples come to mind (like Steve's projection…

they're both smug - what's confusing to me is why anyone who is not a major shareholder of these enormous corporations has feelings about these relatively boring narratives.

You could ask the same question about football fans (or any other sport for that matter).
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