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Please don't take HN threads into flamewar. We want to avoid that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931805 .
9/10 Australians think this guy is a grade-A dickhead. It would have been politically unpalatable for him to have been allowed to stay.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-local-survey-shows-n...
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”Sports should stay neutral.” Right, it should but that's not the issue. Right again, Australian politicians have fucked up their response to COVID on multiple occasions but so have other many countries—name one that hasn’t! And I include Serbia in that lot, it having only 50% of its citizens vaccinated; currently, it has one of the worst vaccination records in all Europe. Leaving Australia aside for the moment, ther…
It's interesting that down-voters never seem to have the fortitude to explain themselves. That they have down-voted I take as a compliment, as it means that I have succeeded in getting my point across.
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Please don't take HN threads into flamewar. We want to avoid that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29931805 .
Really? You leave a person opinion calling someone a dickhead. And delete the replies because they are not quite up to standards?
Your comment was a noticeable step into tedious, predictable flamewar. Please keep that kind of thing off HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.
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Really? You leave a person opinion calling someone a dickhead. And delete the replies because they are not quite up to standards?
That's not what the comment said. It was making a point about Australian public opinion. Your comment was a noticeable step into tedious, predictable flamewar. Please keep that kind of thing off HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-local-survey-shows-n...
My comment was also making the same point about the rest of the world opinion on Australian govs rules, that are affecting the player. And was clearly better backed, below, than the original comment
But imagine next time there is a covid post, someone comments:
"Many Americans think Fauci is a grade-A dickhead. It is politically unpalatable for him to be allowed to stay"
Even if there was a point there, it could clearly have been expressed in an acceptable way. And probably will in the future again
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It's interesting that down-voters never seem to have the fortitude to explain themselves. That they have down-voted I take as a compliment, as it means that I have succeeded in getting my point across.
Explanation: pretty sure almost nobody read that wall of text, just downvoted and moved on. How long did it take you to write that? Downvoting takes one second and can be done while rolling ones eyes.
FYI, I expected flack from disagreeing diehards so I watched the voting with interest. The split in voting being almost even with the earliest ones being upvotes. I know diehards won't agree or believe what I am saying but at least I know that many others do so and that they have actually read the post despite whatever you may think.
Moreover, you've only criticized, what you have failed to do is provide a contrary opinion or debate the issues exactly as I have noted above. Nor it seems have you actually read the many other posts that agree with my opinion. QED!
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That's not what the comment said. It was making a point about Australian public opinion. Your comment was a noticeable step into tedious, predictable flamewar. Please keep that kind of thing off HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.
According to this Australian poll only 4 in 10 have a negative view of Djokovic https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-local-survey-shows-n... My comment was also making the same point about the rest of the world opinion on Australian govs rules, that are affecting the player. And was clearly better backed, below, than the original comment But imagine next time there is a covid post, someone comments: "Many American…
I agree with you that the GP should have used a different phrase there, but this sort of thing is a matter of degree, and what you posted was several degrees further into flamewar. Please don't do that, even when another post includes a provocation. That's in the guidelines too, btw:
"Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead."
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I think that an international sports event in a country that is too picky has no chance to stay relevant, especially if that means that it filters out some of the best athletes.
"...a country that is too picky has no chance to stay relevant, especially if that means that it filters out some of the best athletes. " No Australia didn't filter Djokovic out, he filtered himself out because of his actions (see my earlier post listing seven points). Had he been a little more prudent and less cocky, then there would have been no drama whatsoever.
They are all based on the assumption that the vaccine is effective against transmission and they only make sense if that protection is over a reasonable threshold. Citation for that effectiveness against the dominant strain please.
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This is the whole thing that has to stop though. We bring up how deadly covid is, and how vaccinations help reduce symptoms, but no one is pointing out the most insane thing of the blatant discrimination against unvaccinated people to be denied entry to a place without proof of vaccination, even though, vaccinated people are still spreading the disease. I’m sorry but supporting this crap is insanity. You literally ar…
"...blatant discrimination against unvaccinated" Damn right it is, and they ought to be discriminated against for the safety of others—and that includes me! I don't want any unvaccinated person near me because I am more likely to die as a consequence and I expect the Government to keep them away from me at all costs—for it is the constitutional duty of government to protect me as a citizen from threat and danger. Cle…
The vaccines are not reasonably effective against transmission, especially for the current dominant strain, but also the previous ones. Vaccinated people are still infecting people that were not able to be vaccinated and other vaccinated people as well - that's actually happening at the Australian Open right now. The absolute risk reduction of the vaccines is below 3%. [0] The guilt-tripping is not based on facts or science, but on fear, the flawed idea that you could eliminate risk from life, as well as lack of respect for other people's freedoms.
[0] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5...
> It has always been thus for centuries across many counties. How many instances and examples would you like? Do an internet search. Just because these facts are new to you and that you have never previously experienced a pandemic in your lifetime then it doesn't mean that such action by governments is not normal practice. Well, I can assure that it fucking-well is normal practice and that you need to get used to the fact or alternatively withdraw from society altogether.
Witch-hunts used to be common too, but that does not mean that we should bring them back.
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Yes, omicron is much worse than a common cold or the flu. Completely unvaccinated persons are still in quite a danger for life through it. The virus is known not only to cause death, but to cause organ damages even with lighter case and having likely long term effects. The whole affair isn't because he is likely a major risk to the population of Australia - that can be easily ruled out by a test, but about failing to…
This is the whole thing that has to stop though. We bring up how deadly covid is, and how vaccinations help reduce symptoms, but no one is pointing out the most insane thing of the blatant discrimination against unvaccinated people to be denied entry to a place without proof of vaccination, even though, vaccinated people are still spreading the disease. I’m sorry but supporting this crap is insanity. You literally ar…
While I would like to stay away from that comparison, there are structural similarities that cannot be denied:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/impfausweise-r...
> Zeugen war laut Polizei aufgefallen, dass vor der Arztpraxis immer wieder Autos mit Kennzeichen aus dem gesamten süddeutschen Raum geparkt haben sollen.
> Die Polizei klingelte in den frühen Morgenstunden: Die Beamten durchsuchten in Bayern, Baden-Württemberg, Hessen und Nordrhein-Westfalen Wohnungen von mehr als 100 Menschen, die sich falsche Impfbescheinigungen besorgt haben sollen. Die Ermittler stellten bei der Aktion unter anderem Impfausweise und Smartphones sicher.
> Zudem wurde bei den Verdächtigen Blut entnommen, wie ein Sprecher der Polizei erklärte. Über einen Antikörper-Test will man nachweisen, dass sie nicht geimpft sind.
Rough summary in English: Bavarian police caught a doctor who handed out fake vaccine certs. The neighbours called the police, because they noticed unusual license plates on parking cars. The police raided 100 patients' homes and took blood samples from them.