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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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post #184

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> provided by the Australian Open tournament They're not the Australian federal government though, so it's moot.

Whose fault is it if the tournament didn't put a process together that worked properly with the government? The people who used the process or the organization that created it?

When you attempt to enter a country, it is your individual responsibility to ensure yoh are eligible, nobody elses.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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post #19

More fuel to the fire - no reason he should get a pass when other people can't. Sorry - it's only tennis and he's trying to cheat to get in. This isn't to political leaders talking about the fate of their people.

If the vaccines don't prevent spread or contraction of the virus, why are people upset with him standing up against these pointless vaccine mandates?

Nobody's upset about his beliefs. However if you don't meet entry requirements to a country, you shouldn't be surprised if you're not let in.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Look Nadal also broke the rules, he had Covid on 20-th and entered 31 December, and he was supposed to quarantine for 14 days, per Australian law and rules. This was never about the law and rules, it is just politicians wanted to make a show. I think it is embarrassment for whole Australia how the whole thing played out.

I checked the rules and they're more complicated than you give credit. If he had a negative test, he was allowed to travel. The way it played out was poor, and few are impressed. We're still yet to find out fully what happened behind the scenes. A lot of misinformation is circulating. https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/internation...

That's not at all true.

In fact from your link:

> It is important to note that previous infection with COVID-19 is not considered a medical contraindication for COVID-19 vaccination.

One of the main issues here is that ATAGI told TA that previous infection does not constitute containdication, and that Novak was not told this by TA.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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The real story is that in Australia, despite extremely strict rules and measures, Covid is spreading like crazy.

When Australia had strict rules and measures, it did not. Since removing these rules, it has.

Draw your own conclusions from that however you like.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Why does Australia even have a loophole that allows PCR tests instead of vaccination, without also requiring that the person can't be vaccinated? You'd wish the tournament could have been clearer here and just said that all athletes should be fully vaccinated, regardless of what any authorities say. It's PR after all, and the PR of an antivaxer playing is much much worse than the PR of Novak missing the tournament.

It doesn't, hence the whole kerfuffle.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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post #358

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No, it's your turn to prove that what you claim is 100% valid in all places of the world if you don't want to look like an idiot.

I have not lied before, and I have not moved the lamppost. You answered the question about the WHO passport, only after 4 times of asking you said that you forgot it at home. After I explained to you that you could have easily gotten a new one (a statement that you pleasantly ignored again in your last answer), you claim that the country where you were vaccinated in does not use or did not allow you to use a WHO Pass…

It's a day later now and I think it is safe to assume that you haven't figured out yet, how to get the yellow pass stamped in Mongolia, or otherwise avoid having your medical data being passed around totally unprotected. No wonder, I tried hard for weeks to get information on this. You probably also have figured out that the German federal foreign office does not even mention the yellow passport during the pandemic for traveling to Mongolia. And of course Amazon does not deliver to Mongolia too.. Actually, getting anything delivered to Mongolia takes weeks or more, because of restrictions of movement.

See, how your entire line of argumentation evaporates into the Schwurbel-Äther? You have been warned early in this thread: don't call out something as a lie if you don't know the details.

To your defence: I find the things that I am saying unbelievable too, but that does not mean that they are false.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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post #312
post #293

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Skipping the part where I discuss my general doubt of intellectual capabilities of the fellow commenters here. - Datum uzorkovanja (Date of sampling): 22.12.2021 14:12:10 - Datum izdavanja rezultata (Date of issuance of results): 22.12.2021 16:15:49 => I will ignore the time needed to get the actual swabs to the laboratory and do the necessary paperwork etc and round this to ~2 hours of time available for testing. -…

>See, unless my fellow countrymen have developed a way to do PCR tests 5 times faster than the fastest tests available in the (rest) of the world, this test in itself is a joke. While I have no clue how they work in detail they offer 60 min express PCRs in Germany at least at my airport.

Those are NAATs, which, while they are based on polymerase chain reaction (PCR), are not the same as PCR reported in the test.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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post #322
post #312

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>See, unless my fellow countrymen have developed a way to do PCR tests 5 times faster than the fastest tests available in the (rest) of the world, this test in itself is a joke. While I have no clue how they work in detail they offer 60 min express PCRs in Germany at least at my airport.

Also these guys in Canada offer 60- and 20-minute PCR tests: https://www.bonvoyagemedical.com/

Those are NAATs, which, while they are based on polymerase chain reaction (PCR), are not the same as PCR reported in the test. Plus, I'm unsure as to where you saw 20 minutes, the shortest I see offered there is 'whithin an hour'.
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