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Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by aix1 »

zo1 wrote: post #310
samwillis wrote: post #200

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I believe the “confirmation code” that’s higher for 16th than the 22nd test is still suspicious though. 16th: 7371999-259039 22nd: 7320919-259039 Does anyone have an explanation of how that code works. Could it have been related to a manufacturing batch of tests that’s been used out of order? Those of you here with test results how does that code relate to your testing date?

It could very well be a unique ID not for the test but for the generated pdf document. 100% have done a system like this and we put the ID of the "doc" rather than the internal entity. This is also not a smoking gun in my opinion.

That theory should be easy for someone from Serbia to check, by re-downloading their test results and seeing whether the ID changes.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by aix1 »

carlmr wrote: post #312
raegen wrote: post #293

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Skipping the part where I discuss my general doubt of intellectual capabilities of the fellow commenters here. - Datum uzorkovanja (Date of sampling): 22.12.2021 14:12:10 - Datum izdavanja rezultata (Date of issuance of results): 22.12.2021 16:15:49 => I will ignore the time needed to get the actual swabs to the laboratory and do the necessary paperwork etc and round this to ~2 hours of time available for testing. -…

>See, unless my fellow countrymen have developed a way to do PCR tests 5 times faster than the fastest tests available in the (rest) of the world, this test in itself is a joke. While I have no clue how they work in detail they offer 60 min express PCRs in Germany at least at my airport.

Also these guys in Canada offer 60- and 20-minute PCR tests: https://www.bonvoyagemedical.com/

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by aix1 »

ls15 wrote: post #313
YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #287

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Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in?

> Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in? Germany. My vaccine cert is from a non-EU country. I cannot enter businesses without the digital EU cert. It's real.

I don't know about Germany specifically, but France has a way to obtain what they call a "vaccine equivalency health pass":

https://www.sante.fr/how-to-obtain-a-french-health-pass

I know there's a similar scheme in Switzerland, so this sort of thing is definitely not unique to France.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by truthhunter »

grujicd wrote: post #223
grujicd wrote: post #156

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Ok, this is getting strange. There are two ways to get test results: - it's automatically sent to email (if they have it) - you can download it from ezdravlje.rs portal The test I shared above is the one I got on email. However, I went to portal, downloaded pdf, and now I have two copies. They're different! IDs and all the data are the same, but QR codes are different. This is the new one: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/…

I have 2 more datapoints. My wife went with me to the testing on the same date. If you're negative on rapid test, they usually take PCR as well. Since she was negative on the first one, there was a PCR too. These are her QR urls: Rapid test: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=16415703349MJ... Timestamp: 1641570334, time: GMT: Friday, 7. January 2022. 15:45:34 PCR: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?c…

Another question: Are all results displayed in green color, also the positiv ones?

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Post by hugh-avherald »

brokenmachine wrote: post #306
hugh-avherald wrote: post #123

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That doesn't make much sense to me: it seems to require a person who has an allergy to the vaccine to also get infected. At any rate, the sensible course of action would have been to allow only permanent, approved medical contraindications to be grounds for exemption. Temporary contraindications (like recent vaccination/infection) would simply invoke an apology and a wish they get better soon.

That's what it is. Look at it yourself. Previous infection is only a 6-month temporary deferral in the case of major acute medical illness. https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021... https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/who-is-actually-el... These are the ATAGI guidelines though, the border can do what they want and they do not recognize previous infection as an exemption, apparently except…

Note that the first link is published by a Commonwealth Government entity and the second is not the government. His exemption was granted by Tennis Australia, not the Commonwealth.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by crnigruja »

grujicd wrote: post #125
TomAnthony wrote: post #35

The negative test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640187792DOH... The positive test result: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1640524880jk8...

This is very sad development for me, Djokovic's countryman who really bought his story. Nut facts are facts. I can share my own (positive) test, which confirms timestamp and id theory. My test was taken on the 7th January, it was a rapid test, not a PCR. But it's in the same government database: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1641591150Q!A... Timestamp: 1641591150, which translates to GMT: Friday, 7.…

Additionally, on Novak's PCR test from Dec 16th on the website, the test result "NEGATIVE" had been changed to "POSITIVE" sometime around 14h00 on January 10th. Noticed by several people, including myself (took screenshot even myself before and after).

BTW, apparently my IP address has now been blocked accessing to that website :) I get this message now: "Ваша адреса је блокирана 24 сата! Vaša adresa je blokirana 24 sata! Your address is blocked for 24 hours!"

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by techcode »

crnigruja wrote: post #326
grujicd wrote: post #125

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This is very sad development for me, Djokovic's countryman who really bought his story. Nut facts are facts. I can share my own (positive) test, which confirms timestamp and id theory. My test was taken on the 7th January, it was a rapid test, not a PCR. But it's in the same government database: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1641591150Q!A... Timestamp: 1641591150, which translates to GMT: Friday, 7.…

Additionally, on Novak's PCR test from Dec 16th on the website, the test result "NEGATIVE" had been changed to "POSITIVE" sometime around 14h00 on January 10th. Noticed by several people, including myself (took screenshot even myself before and after). BTW, apparently my IP address has now been blocked accessing to that website :) I get this message now: "Ваша адреса је блокирана 24 сата! Vaša adresa je blokirana 24…

I just got blocked for 24 hours as well. After opening https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=1641591150Q!A... just fine -tried to see what happens when you change the digits to cqcode=1641591151... :)

While I guess in these cases governments don't really worry about enumeration aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tank_problem - it's still often a security risk that means you usually try to avoid it.

Even when internally you have auto-incremental ID - you can provide a non-sequential public ID (e.g. at least use SkipJack/Skip32 of that incremental value).

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Post by djoko_research »

grujicd wrote: post #223
grujicd wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, this is getting strange. There are two ways to get test results: - it's automatically sent to email (if they have it) - you can download it from ezdravlje.rs portal The test I shared above is the one I got on email. However, I went to portal, downloaded pdf, and now I have two copies. They're different! IDs and all the data are the same, but QR codes are different. This is the new one: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/…

I have 2 more datapoints. My wife went with me to the testing on the same date. If you're negative on rapid test, they usually take PCR as well. Since she was negative on the first one, there was a PCR too. These are her QR urls: Rapid test: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?cqcode=16415703349MJ... Timestamp: 1641570334, time: GMT: Friday, 7. January 2022. 15:45:34 PCR: https://pcr.euprava.gov.rs/validate.php?c…

Intro: Looking at covid19.rs/homepage-english/ I can see that there was a total of 1.444.532 people tested and the data is marked for 10.01.2022 at 15:00.

This is exactly the same as here: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/serbia

So I'm assuming that this dataset can be trusted.

The point:

From the dataset: Date: 2021-12-16, new tests: 13690.0, total tests: 7032035.0 Date: 2021-12-22, new tests: 14808.0, total tests: 7107851.0 Date: 2021-12-26, new tests: 9265.0, total tests: 7158932.0

As We can see Djoko's "ID" (7371999) is much larger than total number of tests for 26th of December 2021 (by 213067) and for me this furthers your point that We don't know how this number is generated. (It seems to be sequential, but is it?)

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo »

ls15 wrote: post #313
YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in?

> Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in? Germany. My vaccine cert is from a non-EU country. I cannot enter businesses without the digital EU cert. It's real.

You have three ways to enter German businesses either a digital certificate or a vaccination card from the pharmacy or your who vaccine passport... I am in Germany as well STOP lying on the internet.

Re: Djokovic's PCR test was manipulated?

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Post by ls15 »

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #287
ls15 wrote: post #285

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In my country, the certs are required to enter businesses.

Doubt. You can't use a vaccination card or WHO vaccine passport? which country are you residing in?

Since I cannot reply on the comment were you accused me of lying on the internet.

> You have three ways to enter German businesses either a digital certificate or a vaccination card from the pharmacy or your who vaccine passport

The vaccination card from the pharmacy *IS* the print out of the digital EU certificate, including the QR code. That's all I got at the pharmacy. Businesses will not accept my foreign certificate. I have no other certificates. This is my reality.

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