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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by thepasswordis »

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended.

* They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong. The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall.

* The way they talk about the other kid asking questions "with their mask down". To be obsessed with this sort of minutiae as a kid is scary to me.

* Kids thinking about test...and apparently being given something like 5 tests in a single day? This seems wasteful and hysterical on behalf of the school.

* Begin upset at kids for taking these tests in the bathroom instead of at home.

It just seems like there is a whole realm of paranoia that this kid is trying to fit on top of their life, and I don't think this sort of paranoia is in any way reasonable.

I think that teaching kids to think about their world with this framing, and at a formative age, is and already has done major damage to their development.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by Spivak »

whimsicalism wrote: post #478
Spivak wrote: post #464

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn’t have “SCHOOL IS A PRISON” as random thing to shout back in your day?

no. i did have to go through a metal detect and xray every day to get into school though, certainly reinforced the prison feeling.

No cap an actual literal xray? Metal detector sure, but your school had one of those things like at the airport?

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by nyolfen »

fredgrott wrote: post #418
darth_avocado wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be year 3 of covid and this is 100% the fault of the same people who have created every other problem in the education system: the administrators. There is no perfect way to open schools, that much is certain after looking at other countries. But looking at the state of things, it doesn’t even seem like people are trying. Japan has students come in on alternate days, so that the school can operate at 50% capa…

Look folks, yes I know I flunked out of BS Molecular degree but.. It will be a pandemic of 5 to ten years in total. In short words like you were 5, two factors converged to make this a reality: 1. World for the most part failed to lead like China an stop it cold fast and yes places like the USA gets fair blame for that. 2. Speed of mutations. Only have one of those factors then it would be far less years of a pandemi…

i think it would be fair to say that science failed us if this is due to a lab leak, which appears to be the case. science made by possible by public health funding, in fact.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by dmarlow »

jonnydubowsky wrote: post #467
Blackthorn wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the administrators What throws me about all this is that their entire job, the reason they draw a paycheck in the first place, their raisin d'oatmeal, is to keep things running smoothly when the unexpected happens. Now going into year three and they've managed to do fuck all to create solutions. Which is, y'know, their JOB. Generally they've just made problems worse by sticking their noses into things. What the hel…

"raisin d'oatmeal" is my new favorite saying.

I thought it was gold when I read it too. Its use was the pièce de résistance of that paragraph.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by whimsicalism »

Spivak wrote: post #502
whimsicalism wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no. i did have to go through a metal detect and xray every day to get into school though, certainly reinforced the prison feeling.

No cap an actual literal xray? Metal detector sure, but your school had one of those things like at the airport?

yes. what else would they do for stuff like a backpack that set off the metal detector?

even had them in middle school, not elementary though.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by timbeccue »

jsiaajdsdaa wrote: post #480

>90% of conversations about covid, it has taken over daily life this is what the powers that be want to happen. they want you to live in a state of panic and fear. when i was in school (i am 30 now), i had many severe illnesses like pneumonia twice, shingles, mono, staph. nobody ever gave a shit, and nobody died.

> this is what the powers that be want to happen. they want you to live in a state of panic and fear.

Do you think this is a conscious desire?

Is it something that our leaders developed after attaining power, or is it a preexisting desire that led them to seek power in the first place?

Why do they want people to live in a state of panic and fear?

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by Nbox9 »

the__alchemist wrote: post #224

I speculate that students who spend time learning from internet resources like Khan Academy will get a significant leg up over their colleagues in this case; even more so than usual. This applies both in the sense that "They will learn more effectively", and "They'll have a better shot at getting into universities".

For people in highly competitive situations (like highschool) this is a selection event for those that can adapt to remote-first while being highly productive. In 5 years the people that did the best remote-first studying for the ACT/SAT/AP will be graduating from the top colleges and begin claiming the top jobs. The people getting promotions in knowledge work now are the people that have been performing well over the last two years of remote-first. The longer this stays the greater long-term impact it will have, as those that are doing well in this environment move to situations where they lead and create policy.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by lvl100 »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #423
lvl100 wrote: post #388

They should really consider repeating grades for kids. The pandemic is robbing the kids of proper education. I suppose this is too late.

These kids have been getting robbed of a proper education since well before the pandemic arrived. Holding them back a year is just going to create a generation of delayed adults that will ripple through the economy in ways we can't even imagine. But lets try: Shifting average graduation age to 18-19 * Drop out rate: TO THE MOON! * Shit pay "high school" jobs no one wants: Now for adults! * Wages don't just stagnate b…

Grades are arbitrary. Plenty of kids start a year late sometimes on purpose by parents to give them a leg up. Particularly for grades 8-12, in school education is vital. You seem very concerned about the economy.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by sergiotapia »

gorbachev wrote: post #240
tomp wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're afraid of the virus, get vaccinated yourself. That's literally the most you can do. If you're still afraid of the virus, you should know that vaccinating people (even forcefully) won't stop transmission. The virus is endemic. The only thing that can change between now and "back to normal" future is, your mind.

How lucky you are not having to worry about co-morbidity. I'm sick and tired of people generalizing their own conditions to the entire population. You are not like everyone else. Stop telling other people they don't need to worry.

I'm sick and tired of doom larpers stealing the youth and life experiences of children and teenagers over this nothingness.

If _you_ have comorbidities _you_ need to protect yourself.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by starkd »

thepasswordis wrote: post #501

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

Indeed, it's truly sad. It's an inability to deal with risk out of all proportion to the reality it actually poses. From his comments, I wonder if he actually thinks he will be dead from standing next to someone who just tested positive. The preliminary results from UK and SA indicate that this recent wave could be a blessing in that it serves as an innoculation rather than severe illness. And children his age are not at a great risk to begin with.
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