It seems that adolescents tend to like to sleep for longer than older adults. That just seems how people are wired at different stages of life; nothing wrong with either preference. But the older adults run society, which means that getting up early is seen as the “productive” and “A-type” thing to do, and in turn we end up structuring people’s schedules accordingly. Adolescents of course don’t get a vote on when school is supposed to start.
School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
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Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
#102I remember waking up to go to school every morning at 6:45 and taking the bus every day at 7:05 when I was in high school in France. Most months the sun hadn't even risen yet. It was punishing, and I definitely was sleep deprived by the end of the week. Because of the schedule, my parents had me go to sleep around 9pm but I had a hard time sleeping then and tended to not fall asleep before midnight/1 am. I'd either l…
I was the same as a kid - I really struggled with the early mornings, and could never sleep before midnight. Come the weekend, and I was so tired I'd sleep until midday.
When I first started at high school, I was a great student, for example winning multiple prizes over the first 18 months. But the tiredness really took a toll, and for most of the rest of school I was a half zombie - I still did well at school, but I'm sure I could have achieved so much more if I wasn't so incredibly tired all the time, and it for sure took a toll on my social life too.
Us two were maybe more extreme examples, but it seems to be a common problem.
I don't know what the solution is though?
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
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Over two hours of biking in rain every day sounds like quite a lot to be honest. And I definitely would not want my kid to drive 40km a day in snow or on icy road. Even if split into two 20km segments. I had 10km from home to university. I would definitely not want to do double that amount everyday. Even as I was in shape at the time, doing it on bike everyday would be severely unappealing. It would probably also mea…
Biking isn't a sport. That's the root of the normality of the above situation.
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Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have links to these certain sites/more info?
Unfortunately, the best I have is a screenshot of a weibo screen inside a discord server that is now defunct so no luck on getting that out.
Thanks. Can you see what date is the weibo screen is from?
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
#105And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning. My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren't prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she's way behind in math still. That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare. I don't know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it's definitely time to reset expectations here.
I guess it varied.
My (primary school age) daughter greatly benefited from a more bespoke, one-to-one approach, and came on leaps and bounds during home schooling. But my wife wasn't working, so was fully available for her, which of course was not possible for everyone.
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
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In Paris or London, kids are not given a ride to school for a lack of alternatives. No personal experience with Barcelona, but the public transport network looks pretty good, too. Of course, public transport shouldn't be necessary for most city kids, which ought to have a school in walking and certainly biking[1] distance. It'd be interesting to see the distribution of distance to school in different locations and fo…
You’re assuming that all schools are the same, they’re certainly not. Yes, kids that already live in the city won’t obviously get taken to school by car, but most good schools in the periphery better have a way to handle the cars.
Well, since it's now obvious to you that children living in the city -- a city like London, Paris or Barcelona -- won't get taken to school by car, we seem to be mostly in agreement.
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If I were to guess how all this will end is some side effective of restrictions will read its ugly head - mental health, economic recession, or just general civil disobedience. Then suddenly we’ll be told “trade offs need to be made” and “the vaccines provide enough protection to relax restrictions”. The fact that we’re 2 years into it and with a population that is mostly vaccine and at a much reduced risk yet the re…
The restrictions are definitely not the same as they were 2 years ago when this all started. Schools shut, everyone working from home, no bar/cafe/restaurants, no outdoor social activities qas what we had then. In the last two weeks I've been to a bar twice and the cinema. I don't know of anywhere in the world (but could be wrong) that is still in that form of lock down right now.
Depends where you are? Two years ago Canada didn’t have many restrictions at all. Masks weren’t even a requirement in all provinces.
Ontario, Canada just cranked up restrictions.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/public-health-measures
Quebec now has curfew, primary schools closed. All public events canceled.
https://cdn-contenu.quebec.ca/cdn-contenu/sante/documents/Pr...
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
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I looked it up and it has nothing to do with the n-word other than vaguely sounding like it. Is it verboten too now? How about rigger? Sound too close as well?
You missed the point then
Please write the African country of Niger and tell them it’s offensive to African Americans and they should change the name of their country.
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
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There are a lot of high schoolers who do not live within walking distance of their school, or who aren't safe walking to their school. Buses are unreliable, easy to miss, and public transportation can be expensive. It's a whole thing.
As others have said, in Europe (at least in the cities where I grew up) transportation is not an issue. I went to several schools and kids being driven to school has always been an exception. They mostly walked or took public transport [0]. My sister went to high-school in a more rural area (read far-away suburb) and kids from the surrounding towns used to take the school bus. Yet, school still started very early, a…
Surely it depends on the size of the city/town/village?
I grew up in a small village in rural Scotland, and there was exactly one bus a day to/from School. If I missed it, I had a 5 mile walk to get there. I got a bike at some point, but twisty rural roads were not the safest place to be riding.
Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a lot of high schoolers who do not live within walking distance of their school, or who aren't safe walking to their school. Buses are unreliable, easy to miss, and public transportation can be expensive. It's a whole thing.
In the US, maybe. In Europe, it's very unusual for a kid older than ~9 years to be driven to school.
In Europe, it's very unusual for a kid older than ~9 years to be driven to school.
Here in the UK there are parking restrictions around practically every school to stop parents clogging up the roads to drop off or collect their kids. I'd suggest that's evidence that a lot of children still get taken to school by car.