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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

smsm42 wrote: post #395
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you ask, the phrases that I quoted are white nationalist and or Fascist (Neo- or old-school) thinking and imagery. I won't claim that it's all about one person's speaking style, that is reductive. The philosophy (such as it is) of those movements wasn't found there alone. This guy gets it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29837954 Sorry to be "vague", I have no wish to be open to accusation (good faith or o…

So you know it's not OK to call people Nazi on this site, especially on extremely flimsy basis such as "he is financed by Peter Thiel" and "he talks about individual achievement". But you still do it. But since you're being coy about it and only "very very transparently hint" at it, it's completely OK. At least for you it's ok, because in this case the rules clearly do not apply.

I did not call the author that, and the basis for what I did state, is not flimsy, and it's not the basis that you claim - I had no idea about the financed part when I read the piece.

I see that the bad faith attacks that I anticipated have finally arrived. if honkdaddy is still reading, this bad faith counterattack is why it's carefully stated.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

smsm42 wrote: post #394
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started to think that the article _might_ have a certain political slant after coming across these phrases: "problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm" ... " the lone overman" ... "Growth Through Struggle" .. "your cosmic duty and win glory only in the bold attempt" ... "our society has been so stagnant and uncreative ... We chose the path of comfort... In our cowardice, we turn…

Of course the guy who wants to find his own path and share his ideas is literally Hitler. If you ask "how ridiculous ideological bubbles can be", the answer is - this ridiculous.

> guy who wants to find his own path is literally Hitler

Not an accurate summary.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by betwixthewires »

meheleventyone wrote: post #223
betwixthewires wrote: post #114

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This comment says more about you than them. It never "just clicks". Meaningful relationships take work. In the modern adversarial dating environment, people are very wary of one another. Helping someone get to know you means getting them to let down their defenses. People are defensive and cautious these days for good reason, but often times it means meaningful connections with potential just don't happen out of appr…

For me at least that immediate sexual attraction has definitely worked out very well and resulted in long-term relationships. It probably helps that sex first, questions later is more socially acceptable where I’ve lived than it seems to be in the US. My wife and I didn’t even get married until our kids were 5 and 3. The idea of courting where to put it bluntly you are campaigning to get someone to see you as worthwh…

Well to me, its less getting someone to see you as worthwhile and more getting someone to see you for who you are and letting them decide if they like what they see.

I spent some time in my life doing the dating thing, attraction first, and they weren't bad times, but they weren't things I wanted til I die. For me, the only long term relationship that matters is the last one. Doing things the way I've always done them wasn't going to work, and honestly I wasn't particularly looking, I just stumbled into someone that I thought was amazing and decided to do it right. There's sex before marriage, but it didn't start off as a sexual attraction. I didn't want to mess around and see where it goes, I knew where I wanted it to go, and I was upfront about it.

Being deliberate about what you want, and clear and open about wanting more from the start, it is a risk, it is easy to put the wrong message out there, and it is work from the get go. Putting the effort in to show that you really care, that this is really what you want, and that you're not some clingy weirdo trying to wife up the first girl that looks at you is not easy in today's environment.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #400
smsm42 wrote: post #396

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There was a time when Godwin's law was meant to prevent people calling each other literally Hitler with no justification. Now people just use Godwin's law to call other people literally Hitler with no justification.

Not "literally Hitler" and "with no justification". So, a bad faith attack.

Yes "literally Hitler" - which you yourself admitted after some insistent prodding. And yes "no justification" - nothing in the article justified going strait into Nazi accusations.

And I don't think a person who thinks it's ok to skirt the rules every time he wants should talk too much about "bad faith". But of course it all fits into the same "it's OK when I do it" mold, doesn't it?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #401
smsm42 wrote: post #395

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you know it's not OK to call people Nazi on this site, especially on extremely flimsy basis such as "he is financed by Peter Thiel" and "he talks about individual achievement". But you still do it. But since you're being coy about it and only "very very transparently hint" at it, it's completely OK. At least for you it's ok, because in this case the rules clearly do not apply.

I did not call the author that, and the basis for what I did state, is not flimsy, and it's not the basis that you claim - I had no idea about the financed part when I read the piece. I see that the bad faith attacks that I anticipated have finally arrived. if honkdaddy is still reading, this bad faith counterattack is why it's carefully stated.

You did, just thinly veiled it. But everybody understood what you meant, and you know it. You can talk about "bad faith" all you want, but the matter is simple - you read article you didn't like (which is OK) and instead of engaging it on merits you went right into guilt by association and Nazi comparisons (which is not OK at all), all while perfectly knowing it's not OK to do it, but "carefully stating" your message so you could say "akshually, technically, I did not use that word, so here! Gotcha!" (which is not OK at all again). But everybody knew what you mean, what you intended and what you did.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by prawn »

bawolff wrote: post #210
JimboOmega wrote: post #185

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It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

I mean maybe, but hn has a primary tech audience. I bet 70% of us here could quit our job, take some risks,go bankrupt, get a new job, all with only mild consequences. Yes that's privilege and it doesn't apply to everyone but its not an obscure level of privilege. You don't need to be a multimillionaire to have it.

Just an extra thought - what would you guess is the overlap between the remaining 30% and the set that need or heed advice like this?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by gremlinsinc »

bitspook wrote: post #282
gremlinsinc wrote: post #23

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I've mostly done this....I get bread/butter from freelance, I have ADHD which gives me some major motivation issues already but depression/anxiety/uncertainty and maybe just burnout have led me to go very slow w/ work. I have one client who I absolutely love cause she's not pushy, she's a developer too, and I'm only a cog in their freelance outsourcing - a good one cause she seems to appreciate my work, but I'm not t…

I have had similar thoughts for some time too! Thoughts of building a co-op, and open source software needed to support it. Coincidentally, I have a resignation email written, and have been sitting on it for several days. I am looking to quit work (for some time) not to work on an ambitious project, but just to see what will become of me when I do so. I started my career as a freelancer, and ADHD gave me tons of trou…

want to team up? I've got a team (mostly laravel devs idling -- i got distracted unironcally w/ the holidays)...

I'm maybe close to finishing a project of my own for once that's basically a beefed up version of laravel/jetstream that essentially makes it multi-tenant, with a better dashboard, and a built in low-code designer (take any existing partial/component and drag and drop and create new ones from it) ...essentially build custom views from existing building blocks -ones we provide, or your own, or 3rd party...

What I've got currently is jetstream with livewire extended to have a dashboard, with a datatable (laravel-powergrid repurposed) component, a bunch of form components (blade-ui repurposed), and daisyui (tailwindcss themes so you can basically easily retheme/recolor the entire interface nicely).

The goal is maybe make an OS version, and then have a marketplace for 3rd party designer components that can be used, maybe a netflix like subscription. $19.99/month and then maybe 70% is split based on consumed resources...i.e. everytime someone downloads your code to integrate in the drag/drop ui/ux creator you'd get a share in the monthly pool...

Once this is done... obviously make MRR from it, but then use it to build an ERP system for co-ops. I've started so many projects and get stuck w/ when I get to the dashboard design phase, if the dashboard design part was super simple, and just almost WYSIWYG I could focus more on the architecture/backend stuff less on ui, and my ADHD wouldn't destroy me before I launch something...that's the idea anyways....

My emails in my profile if you want to team up...

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by gremlinsinc »

adahl5 wrote: post #179
gremlinsinc wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've mostly done this....I get bread/butter from freelance, I have ADHD which gives me some major motivation issues already but depression/anxiety/uncertainty and maybe just burnout have led me to go very slow w/ work. I have one client who I absolutely love cause she's not pushy, she's a developer too, and I'm only a cog in their freelance outsourcing - a good one cause she seems to appreciate my work, but I'm not t…

I love this idea, it's fantastic! ADHD unite!

Hey replied to someone else in more detail if you want to team up... I'm mostly a laravel dev, but I like vue, remix, golang, etc.... open to new techs too... it's just what i'm familiar with....

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29846766

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by bawolff »

hsn915 wrote: post #368
bawolff wrote: post #208

I was nodding along until i reached: >Yes, even the bane of Darwin’s faith—the humble ichneumon wasp that lays its maggots inside the living bodies of caterpillars to eat them from the inside and burst out on maturity like some alien xenomorph—is a beautiful creature with a sacred task. Like many parasites, its role in the great chain of being is to test the health and defenses of its caterpillar host population. Its…

> justification to hurt others for your own gain You're jumping into conclusions. His sentiment is better understood in terms of the balance of nature. He posted this on his Twitter a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q The video is titled "How Wolves Change Rivers". "When wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park in the United States after being absent nearly 70 years, the most remark…

I'm not disputing the ecological affects of predation. I'm disputing its use/applicability as a rhetorical device to further an argument about how to live a "good life".

After all, this isn't an essay on ecology. This paragraph wasn't simply added because ecology is cool. It was added to further an argument.

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