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Post by sangnoir »

thelettere wrote: post #267
sangnoir wrote: post #262

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> It doesn't match history - the only reason we have many good things is because poor people took major risks Check your history again - most of the people who made scientific discoveries or breakthroughs were people of means, or otherwise didn't have to do "real" (paying) work[1] and could afford to dick-around with experiments all day long for months on end and not starve. 1. In history - i.e. from dawn of time to…

Where did I say science? Many modern scientific disciplines are by their nature exclusionary because they require access to specialized equipment and space, so of course that's somewhat of an exception to my generality. And I say somewhat because historically a surprising number of breakthroughs did not happen in a lab, nor were discovered by professional scientists. I took a course in the history of science and tech…

It's polite to mark any substantive edits you make after posting. When I replied - your entire comment was just "Where did I say science?".

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Post by datavirtue »

meheleventyone wrote: post #389
datavirtue wrote: post #379

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The poor have plenty of government support. You can live the liesure lifestyle if you choose to. I used to work 30 hours a week @$9 per hr and pay for an apartment, vehicle, and all of my expenses. The work (cook) was fun and I had a lot of free time to explore tech. Right after that I got a job as a mechanic and then was laid off. I spent two years on unemployment. I have actual real memories from living a good life…

Did you reply to the right comment I’m not sure this has anything to do with mine?

Probably not.

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Post by smsm42 »

jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

And this concludes our demo of "guilt by association" concept.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #250
deepakkarki wrote: post #228

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How is this relevant to the article?

I started to think that the article _might_ have a certain political slant after coming across these phrases: "problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm" ... " the lone overman" ... "Growth Through Struggle" .. "your cosmic duty and win glory only in the bold attempt" ... "our society has been so stagnant and uncreative ... We chose the path of comfort... In our cowardice, we turn…

Of course the guy who wants to find his own path and share his ideas is literally Hitler. If you ask "how ridiculous ideological bubbles can be", the answer is - this ridiculous.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #381
honkdaddy wrote: post #375

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But the Hitler comparison is what you meant, no? What is the rhetoric of the piece that you're talking about?

Since you ask, the phrases that I quoted are white nationalist and or Fascist (Neo- or old-school) thinking and imagery. I won't claim that it's all about one person's speaking style, that is reductive. The philosophy (such as it is) of those movements wasn't found there alone. This guy gets it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29837954 Sorry to be "vague", I have no wish to be open to accusation (good faith or o…

So you know it's not OK to call people Nazi on this site, especially on extremely flimsy basis such as "he is financed by Peter Thiel" and "he talks about individual achievement". But you still do it. But since you're being coy about it and only "very very transparently hint" at it, it's completely OK. At least for you it's ok, because in this case the rules clearly do not apply.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #306
LAC-Tech wrote: post #293

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Why don't you just come out and say what you want to say?

Godwin's law.

There was a time when Godwin's law was meant to prevent people calling each other literally Hitler with no justification. Now people just use Godwin's law to call other people literally Hitler with no justification.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by smsm42 »

osullivj wrote: post #295
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #250

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I started to think that the article _might_ have a certain political slant after coming across these phrases: "problems of governance from beyond the established liberal democratic paradigm" ... " the lone overman" ... "Growth Through Struggle" .. "your cosmic duty and win glory only in the bold attempt" ... "our society has been so stagnant and uncreative ... We chose the path of comfort... In our cowardice, we turn…

Not to mention the name "Wolf". Evidently, he is a "man of destiny". Oddly his linkedin profile pic has a toddler on his shoulders. I assumed the child was his own - the article does have a passing mention of finding a wife. No doubt he considers it his duty to transmit his elevated genetic legacy to future generation.

It's a pretty common Germanic (and Jewish) first name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_(name)

Are you really faulting a person because he has a name you don't like? BTW, how about Wolf Blitzer, is he too...?

And of course him having kids makes him some kind of a eugenicist, only those folks have kids and love to put them on their shoulders, nobody else would ever consider something like fatherhood enjoyable and worth celebrating. Sheesh.

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Post by smsm42 »

MandieD wrote: post #258
tonyj wrote: post #229

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That's interesting context, but does that meaningfully change the message of this article?

It's a bit easier to boldly follow one's philosophical dreams when said dreams line up nicely with what a billionaire is interested in funding.

You do know that a lot of culture and science is not actually funded by scientists, actors and musicians themselves? In fact, there are people that advocate such funding is so important that we need to have the state take money from people - even not billionaires, but people earning very average salaries - and direct these money into financing people that are following some or other kind of philosophical dreams? If you are aware of that, I would like to hear how comes you think when the millionaire - after paying all the money allocated for all of the above - still wishes to spend money on financing even more people pursuing philosophical dreams, there's something wrong and shameful in that? Is that because this time politicians did not intervene in the process?

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Post by betwixthewires »

SkipperCat wrote: post #344
barry-cotter wrote: post #162

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I like how you perform the status move of saying that these things come to you without conscious effort, that you just are yourself and women are automatically attracted to you. Very subtle.

Nope, I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about the behavior of some people who thing women "owe" them romance because they perform specific tasks. In this case, it was quitting his job. For many years in the past women have been treated as property, traded off in marriages for family gain. Not just in history but also right now in Afghanistan, women are being sold due to financial calamity. The writer's action…

Not sure where you're getting this from in the article. The author never once implies that he quit his job to court this woman (although elsewhere on the site he says he wanted to take the time to find a wife, still doesn't imply being owed anything) and there's nothing here along the lines of "I sacrificed my job to spend more time on her and she'd better notice."

There are men like that, and women too, and it's bad, but I'm not seeing this from the author of the article at all.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

smsm42 wrote: post #396
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #306

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Godwin's law.

There was a time when Godwin's law was meant to prevent people calling each other literally Hitler with no justification. Now people just use Godwin's law to call other people literally Hitler with no justification.

Not "literally Hitler" and "with no justification".

So, a bad faith attack.

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