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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by loa_in_ »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #318
mstipetic wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lobbyist lobbying to make submitting taxes difficult is a net positive?

You have changed your argument. First you challenged the idea that everyone who earns money contributes to society. Then you changed your argument to challenge the idea that everyone who earns money is a net positive to society. Those two things are not the same, and moving the goalposts in this way is intellectually dishonest. A lobbyist contributes to society insofar as that they spend their money in their local co…

It's really really uncommon to use "contribute to society" in any sense other than "contribute positively/constructively to society". It's clearly a misunderstanding here.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

loa_in_ wrote: post #371
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have changed your argument. First you challenged the idea that everyone who earns money contributes to society. Then you changed your argument to challenge the idea that everyone who earns money is a net positive to society. Those two things are not the same, and moving the goalposts in this way is intellectually dishonest. A lobbyist contributes to society insofar as that they spend their money in their local co…

It's really really uncommon to use "contribute to society" in any sense other than "contribute positively/constructively to society". It's clearly a misunderstanding here.

That may be so, but even people who are a net negative to society (which is fairly subjective anyway) make positive contributions.

The world isn't quite so black and white, you know?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by beeboop »

honkdaddy wrote: post #353
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Godwin's law.

So just to be clear - you're likening the author to Adolf Hitler? If you think someone is a racist or a transphobe or a nazi or whatever flavour of the month punchline you prefer, you should just come out and say it, rather than being so bizarrely vague and smug about it. You think he's a nazi because he used to work with Peter Thiel - just say it!

I think the implications are less about Peter Thiel and more having associated with known white nationalists, and maybe separately also Carl Tuckerson

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by agumonkey »

themacguffinman wrote: post #175

"If you lose everything you own, you generally still have your network and skills" I get the general call to action that those who have excess resources should leverage that to take big risks, but this really undersells the possible consequences of losing everything you own. No, you don't always keep your network and skills. Sometimes, you lose everything. You lose friends from fallout or you belatedly realize that y…

Also skills are highly relative. You could be great in some workplace but in another you'd get confused. And the things you were home with are now disregarded.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by honkdaddy »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #358
honkdaddy wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So just to be clear - you're likening the author to Adolf Hitler? If you think someone is a racist or a transphobe or a nazi or whatever flavour of the month punchline you prefer, you should just come out and say it, rather than being so bizarrely vague and smug about it. You think he's a nazi because he used to work with Peter Thiel - just say it!

I can't say what the author is like, as I never heard of them before today. I note what the rhetoric of this piece echoes very strongly, and no doubt deliberately. I don't think that the "flavour of the month punchline" comment is in any way justified. It is neither.

But the Hitler comparison is what you meant, no? What is the rhetoric of the piece that you're talking about?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by hidudeurcool »

jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

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Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by datavirtue »

JimboOmega wrote: post #185
themacguffinman wrote: post #175

"If you lose everything you own, you generally still have your network and skills" I get the general call to action that those who have excess resources should leverage that to take big risks, but this really undersells the possible consequences of losing everything you own. No, you don't always keep your network and skills. Sometimes, you lose everything. You lose friends from fallout or you belatedly realize that y…

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

I "retired" for about ten years. I chose to be poor and just focus on raising my kids and being home with them. I discovered what it is this guy is talking about. I was able to focus on personal projects and learning about the world.

I applied all of that and reentered the corporate world like a beast. It is now ten years later and cannot wait to "retire" again. I miss being able to think about things and live life without the narrowing constraints imposed by wage slavery.

You can't understand how liberating it is until you try it but it takes a lot of faith in yourself.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by blindmute »

jonstewart wrote: post #204

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

How does this relate to the content of the article?

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by datavirtue »

meheleventyone wrote: post #217
JimboOmega wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

The author goes on to talk about how there should be a leisure class (basically an aristocracy) and that should be “people of means”. So it’s not even hidden really, it’s just a cementing of the increasing wealth divide more throughly into the political sphere. Neo-Victorianism or something. The working class, literally called “wage-slaves” seemingly unironically in the article and their betters.

The poor have plenty of government support. You can live the liesure lifestyle if you choose to. I used to work 30 hours a week @$9 per hr and pay for an apartment, vehicle, and all of my expenses. The work (cook) was fun and I had a lot of free time to explore tech.

Right after that I got a job as a mechanic and then was laid off. I spent two years on unemployment. I have actual real memories from living a good life during that time. Developing software, hanging out with friends and family, fishing tributaries (walking for hours through a creek or river), tinkering with cars, and reading everything I could get my hands on about world events.

I barely have any memories from when I was trudging through 50 hours a week in a job. Except for those times where I was at a startup trying to change the world (80 hrs a week). But that was an event where I could see the beginning and the end.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Post by blindmute »

sidlls wrote: post #356
maxduckworth wrote: post #188

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Why do you say that?

The GP wrote, "But there is always the niggling feeling for many (I am one) that while I may be making the "smart" choice the real reason I don't do something like this is that I am afraid." He or she seems to be projecting rather than observing. That is: it might apply to them, but there's nothing in the GP's comment supporting a more general applicability.

The human experience as shown through art for thousands of years?
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