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Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Re: Poll: Which FAANG is the most likely to decline in the years ahead?

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Post by ketralnis »

b9a2cab5 wrote: post #444
ketralnis wrote: post #424

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> characters have been changed ... Yennefer is no longer a mature, smart person but now is a stereotypical "I'm a strong independent woman" character that has the personality of a 15 year old. Triss is completely different from the books and game That doesn't sound like wokeness, it sounds like a character change that you just don't like. Fair enough, but it's not wokeness. > Fringilla magically changed to be black e…

> There's no sense in which they are black except for the literal colour of their skin That's the _point_. The writing is completely unrelated to the actors being black. They were casted as black people because the writers/producers wanted black people for the sake of having black people on screen. If there was reference to black culture or some sort of backstory then it would be a _justified casting_ and I wouldn't…

> You don't cast a British person as a Hispanic character in Narcos

But they aren't British nor Hispanic. They're Nilfgaardian and Elves. If you have some idea in your head about what that means for skin colour, it's clearly not the same idea that the writers do.

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Post by yuchi »

sct202 wrote: post #113
thehappypm wrote: post #88

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A show I had one episode left of went off Netflix on 1/1. I tried to find it EVERYWHERE, I even downloaded iTunes on my PC. “Not available in your region” left right and center. I luckily found a torrent and it was legitimately the only way I could find the content beyond buying DVDs on eBay.

There's probably money in helping these companies realize when they have left large portions of their content unlicensed in entire geographic regions.

It is. They call them VPNs and apparently they tell us it’s for “privacy”.

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Post by b9a2cab5 »

ketralnis wrote: post #451
b9a2cab5 wrote: post #444

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> There's no sense in which they are black except for the literal colour of their skin That's the _point_. The writing is completely unrelated to the actors being black. They were casted as black people because the writers/producers wanted black people for the sake of having black people on screen. If there was reference to black culture or some sort of backstory then it would be a _justified casting_ and I wouldn't…

> You don't cast a British person as a Hispanic character in Narcos But they aren't British nor Hispanic. They're Nilfgaardian and Elves. If you have some idea in your head about what that means for skin colour, it's clearly not the same idea that the writers do.

> They're Nilfgaardian and Elves

Right, but the show casts all other Nilfgaardians and elves as white people. If the show casted all Nilfgaardians as black people or gave a story reason for a mixed composition then it would be compelling. But they don't. That's why Fringilla's casting seems shoehorned in.

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Post by cvhashim »

smabie wrote: post #405
ghaff wrote: post #388

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Fair enough. They care about subscriber numbers. Although there's probably some correlation with quality so long as you equate the term with quality that appeals to a fairly mainstream audience (i.e. not Euro arthouse fare). But I don't actually see Netflix programming as aiming to make, e.g. reality TV drek. Most of their programming does seem to be aiming for midbrow quality although it often doesn't hit it.

Most shows and movies developed by Netflix are profoundly uninspired: they take no risks and produce content that is mostly acceptable but quickly forgotten.

Half their content is algorithm generated

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Post by mech422 »

billyhoffman wrote: post #85
mech422 wrote: post #66

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Personally, I think FB is in trouble because it became 'your grandmothers social media'... the youngsters seem more interested in insta and tiktok

> the youngsters seem more interested in insta ... which is owned by FB. Between Instagram securing the audience of the next generation, and Whatsapp gaining huge share as the communication tool of developing world, FB is going to do just fine, even if facebook.com usage totally tanks (also unlikely)

I think that will hold them a couple of years...

Then something else (possibly NOT FB owned) will take over... like another tik tok. Kids don't want to be on the same social as their parents. Its gonna be a revolving door every 5 or 10 years.

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Post by imgabe »

ghaff wrote: post #309
jarjoura wrote: post #96

All of these companies are too big to fail at this point. They all have at least a decade of reserves to power through anything that gets thrown their way. However, I do predict that they will change in significant ways in the next decade. * Apple is one Supreme Court ruling away from ending their App Store monopoly that could disrupt the entire world, since it would also affect all other digital marketplaces. * Amaz…

I see very little evidence that Netflix' data science has been a unique differentiator. For what they've developed, they have some hits and quite a few duds. Their licensed catalog is not exceptional--and even less exceptional when it comes to film. They'll likely mostly turn into another studio with a streaming platform.

“Some hits and quite a few duds” is how every Hollywood studio operates, isn’t it?

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Post by ketralnis »

b9a2cab5 wrote: post #454
ketralnis wrote: post #451

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> You don't cast a British person as a Hispanic character in Narcos But they aren't British nor Hispanic. They're Nilfgaardian and Elves. If you have some idea in your head about what that means for skin colour, it's clearly not the same idea that the writers do.

> They're Nilfgaardian and Elves Right, but the show casts all other Nilfgaardians and elves as white people. If the show casted all Nilfgaardians as black people or gave a story reason for a mixed composition then it would be compelling. But they don't. That's why Fringilla's casting seems shoehorned in.

Maybe there's a recessive gene that causes some tone difference. Maybe there's some historical war that caused the blahblahblah migration of the whoseits to the whatsits. Or maybe it's not part of the story at all and doesn't need to be.

When I meet a new black person they don't spend a bunch of time explaining to me why they're black. That would be pretty weird. It sounds like you have some real hangups about race that just isn't shared by the writers.

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Post by unbanned »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #442
unbanned wrote: post #432

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Netflix has a huge amount of content with pro paedophile tendancies. So many of their shows have underage sex or themes thereof. I have yet to see anyone catalogue these, only point them out in favourite shows. (Aware of the cuties debacle, but this is a rather overt example, aforementioned are sometimes subtle.)

Whaaaa? What does “pro paedophile tendencies” even mean? Can you give concrete examples of this? I’ve never heard this accusation before…

There's really odd undertones in a lot of Netflix shows

Big Mouth (a cartoon) is about child sex

Emily in Paris, character lead has sex with a 17yo on screen.

There are more, I just can't bring them to mind at the moment. Perhaps I should begin to document them.

Hmm... Black Mirror (the Netflix episodes) had child sex in, End of The Fucking World had child sex in it; although both with negative consequences so poor examples.

Maybe it's coincidental, but it is something I've started to notice more and more.

Keep it in mind next time you watch some shows on Netflix and perhaps it will stand out.

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Post by dragonwriter »

b9a2cab5 wrote: post #444
ketralnis wrote: post #424

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> characters have been changed ... Yennefer is no longer a mature, smart person but now is a stereotypical "I'm a strong independent woman" character that has the personality of a 15 year old. Triss is completely different from the books and game That doesn't sound like wokeness, it sounds like a character change that you just don't like. Fair enough, but it's not wokeness. > Fringilla magically changed to be black e…

> There's no sense in which they are black except for the literal colour of their skin That's the _point_. The writing is completely unrelated to the actors being black. They were casted as black people because the writers/producers wanted black people for the sake of having black people on screen. If there was reference to black culture or some sort of backstory then it would be a _justified casting_ and I wouldn't…

> The writing is completely unrelated to the actors being black.

It is just as unrelated to them being White where the actors chosen are White. “Black needs justification but White doesn't” is a recipe (long followed, btw) for White favoritism in casting.

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