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Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by rconti »

m-ee wrote: post #7
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #3

It doesn't seem like the rear view camera problem is that much of a safety issue, thoughts? The front trunk flying open while driving seems highly undesirable though.

Rear view cameras are a required safety feature in the US now. As SUVs proliferated and pillars got thicker for crash safety cases of parents running over their toddlers increased.

Not just SUVs. The visibility out of the rear of my Model 3 is almost as bad as the rear of my BMW X5 SUV. The trunk is so high, you cannot see the headlights of a following passenger car until it's some distance behind.

It's not just Tesla, visibility across all cars is getting worse over time, as manufacturers are pushed by crash test standards to improve performance in a crash against another vehicle or stationary object, to the detriment of the ability to avoid a crash (visibility, weight/handling, etc), and at the cost of humans and animals NOT in a big heavy motorized box.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by panick21_ »

deviantbit wrote: post #48

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This seems like BS unless you just an extreme outlier among extreme. Tesla Quality problems were never with their battery or impact safety. In fact the rank best in class in pretty much ever safety rating in pretty much every country.

I have been following Tesla for a long time and every single 'Tesla catches on fire for no reason' story turned out to be non-sense.

A Tesla catching on fire 'spontaneously' would have made some news and 3 would for sure. Please show sources where and when this happened.

And there are plenty of incidents where parked gas cars catch fire, there have been recalls about that.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by [deleted] »

theshadowknows wrote: post #155
userbinator wrote: post #102

For affected Model 3 owners, Tesla has pledged to install a new cable harness and guide protector free of charge. Wiring harness flexing and chafing is a decades-old well-known problem with well-known solutions. I wonder what the people who designed that area are thinking now, when they were presumably trying to save costs? If Teslas' issues were specific to being EVs or otherwise new functionality specific to its ca…

My understanding of the automotive industry is that they cut corners everywhere they can because they know it’ll save more money than a lawsuit or recall will cost. Do they do these things and when someone dies or raises a stink only then do they do the recall.

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by deviantbit »

panick21_ wrote: post #162
deviantbit wrote: post #48

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This seems like BS unless you just an extreme outlier among extreme. Tesla Quality problems were never with their battery or impact safety. In fact the rank best in class in pretty much ever safety rating in pretty much every country. I have been following Tesla for a long time and every single 'Tesla catches on fire for no reason' story turned out to be non-sense. A Tesla catching on fire 'spontaneously' would have…

Nope. Not BS. Sorry, you don't like it, but it is true. More Tesla's have caught fire than any other brand of vehicle in this Texas community.

Google Fire Tesla Texas. Enjoy!

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by tragictrash »

jayd16 wrote: post #97
tragictrash wrote: post #13

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"Loyal" means something different than they simply like their car? Why is it painted as somehow disqualifying?

100%. You can like your car, but be aware and open with the flaws. Thats me with my car. The behavior I see surrounding these cars is definately not that.

I haven't really seen this with another brand of car, at least to this extent.

I see it a lot with iPhones too, but that's not a car.

Definitely disqualifies your statements if I know they come from a place of blind infatuation.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by deviantbit »

electrondood wrote: post #86
deviantbit wrote: post #48

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In the Bay Area city where I live, during rush hour I can regularly count 60+ Teslas just walking around my block. I haven't heard of one such incident.

You don't live in Texas heat either.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by protomyth »

heavyset_go wrote: post #133
walrus01 wrote: post #4

see also: Tesla ranks almost dead last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/tesla-model-s-no-longer-reco... I hope this doesn't come across as excessively smug but I think my life, level of stress and personal finances are measurably improved by owning something that is closer to a $9000 Toyota Corolla and spending money o…

> I hope this doesn't come across as excessively smug but I think my life, level of stress and personal finances are measurably improved by owning something that is closer to a $9000 Toyota Corolla and spending money on regular, basic maintenance for it. Agreed. My criteria for a car now is that it has to have a large aftermarket for parts, and it needs to be serviceable by pretty much any mechanic. Corollas and simi…

Corollas are easy to get parts. My next auto purchase will be in the next two years, and I will be checking with availability of parts at third-party part stores. If you do this, do it for a specific model and don't assume that one manufacturer is better than another or has even availability on every model. Kia Rio has parts available, and the Kia Niro needs everything ordered. Also, checking what people who do aftermarket modifications are driving isn't such a bad idea.

Also, watch some youtube videos of common maintenance and repair scenarios. Even if you won't be doing the repairs, knowing the difficulty level and parts required might give you some insight into how good the vehicle is long term.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by nexuist »

onphonenow wrote: post #74

The rear camera MAY fail issue seems pretty benign. When it fails go get it fixed? Or is that no longer a permitted approach. These recalls used to be for things major. Now we are getting a recall over what would be a warranty claim? Can they not just extend warranty coverage in this year to something like 10 years?

> These recalls used to be for things major. Now we are getting a recall over what would be a warranty claim

This is actually a great thing. That we seem to be ordering less major recalls means that automakers got their shit together and across the board, work harder to not kill people than they used to. A far cry from the Takata fiasco.

Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by jerry_cto »

matsemann wrote: post #62
LanceJones wrote: post #26

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Since you're making broad, sweeping generalizations, I can play. There are 7 people in my social circle who are Tesla owners but not fiercely loyal. They are not rich. And none of them have experienced more than minor issues in their ownership.

If you own a Tesla you're almost by definition rich. If everyone in your social circle is driving expensive/new cars, you're all rich. Not to go all "check your privileges", but seriously..

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Re: Tesla recalls nearly half a million Model 3 and Model S cars

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

gambiting wrote: post #149
bananabreakfast wrote: post #112

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A model 3 MSRP is $45k. A used one can be found for even less than that. Check your local car prices, b/c that is not really that expensive and certainly nowhere close to "rich" territory. A fully loaded F-150 is $78k. I would be shocked if you also said anyone driving an F-150 is by definition rich. Also, a cheap used car may be drastically less expensive to buy for most people, but they will ultimately pay thousand…

Yeah no, sorry, if you can afford a $45k car you must be pretty rich. I know there are places in the world where a $45k car is almost a toy, but that's an extremely narrow and very priviledged perspective.

Some people aren't rich but buy pretty expensive cars with a loan. Either because they really like cars, or they're financially irresponsible, or both.

I know people like this.

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