Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking • Hacker News Board

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by LarrySellers » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:02 PM UTC

nathias wrote: post #28

LarrySellers wrote: post #26

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It's not obvious, that's why we're studying it. In fact some studies have shown that e-cigarettes may not lead to cessation. https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/sgr/2020-smoking... E-cigarette aerosols vary greatly, as well as the temperatures that various devices heat them to. > as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you Anecdotal evidence may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise no…

I've seen much more cherry picking from official studies than in my anecdotal evidence, but thanks.

Which ones?

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:04 PM UTC

DenisM wrote: post #13

aurizon wrote: post #2

4 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…

> you could quickly use a lower gear freewheel on the other side -(if you rotated to drive the other axle) Wait, what? You had a sprocket on each side of your rear wheel and you flipped the wheel around to change gears? Or did you exchange front/rear wheel, each having a different sprocket?

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Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by ugjka » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM UTC

vonseel wrote: post #29

ugjka wrote: post #18

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I started with nicotine patches and after 2 weeks switched over to Wellbutrin (prescribed by psychiatrist). On Wellbutrin I had couple rough days but nothing too bad, I mostly used music for distracting myself from this hole that i felt. Now i'm 124 days clean and feel so happy to be free from this bullshit

I've quit nicotine more than once, but last time I quit with patches too. I switched from cigarettes to e-cig in 2018 and by late 2020 I was consuming way more nicotine than I did before - a JUUL pod or more per day. I never smoked indoors so when I started e-cigs the habit only got worse and instead of a habit that required a break every hour or two to go outside and have a cigarette, I was just vaping all day throu…

Well, i got into 30 cigs a day zone and started to realize this is not gonna end well. I had to draw a line in the sand and tell the damn cravings to fuck off and stick to my guns. Freedom is worth much more than some stinky stick that'll give you cancer.

The breaking point was when I decided to see an addiction specialist instead of trying to wage the war on my own

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by smoldesu » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:07 PM UTC

SonicTheSith wrote: post #14

4 years ago I quit smoking. While the first week was hell because of the nikotin withdrawal. Getting rid of the habit itself took longer. Waiting outiside, after a meal etc. it is all habit. What I did was buying a vape with nikotin free filling just to have something if my.mind craves the habit. This went on for 3 months reducing the amount I vaped linearly. By month 4 I stopped touching the vape and the only times…

Nicotine in particular is a bitch to quit - I don't understand how a substance that addictive can be legal, especially considering how violent a withdrawl can feel. Breaking off a pot addiction or a heavy drinking stint seems like a cinch by comparison.

My advice is to buy some flavored toothpicks. I bought some minty ones from Amazon and they do a great job of satisfying any oral fixation you've got, and placating the habit of wanting to do something with your hands when you've got a free moment. It admittedly doesn't make quitting cold-turkey any more fun, but it certainly helps to trick your brain for a while.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by nonesuchluck » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:09 PM UTC

stavros wrote: post #12

yosito wrote: post #8

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It never occurred to me to use nicotine pills as an appetite suppressant, though I don't doubt at all that it works. I wonder what other side effects it might have, aside from being potentially habit forming. Does it increase blood pressure? That's the main thing that keeps me from ever indulging in tobacco use.

Is there a pill that makes me wait for hunger before I eat? That's what I need :P

Mix up a cup of fiber supplement (I use BeneFiber) and drink it 10 min before you plan to eat. You will eat less and feel fuller for longer (eating slowly increases the effect). If you're already choosing healthy foods, portion control is the last barrier to conquering waistlines.

Many people don't get enough fiber in their diet anyway. Just be sure to start drinking more water to overcome the, err, digestive difficulties of higher fiber consumption.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by etaioinshrdlu » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:10 PM UTC

I tried vaping Juul aggressively for a few weeks to try to get addicted. I failed miserably. It just doesn't feel good enough. Zero desire to ever vape again. Very light effects, or more nauseous than anything if you have enough. It is somewhat baffling to me that anyone would find it addictive. I'm not willing to try actual cigarettes for health reasons.

Caffeine is very addictive for me though, and it gives physical withdrawals.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by DarylZero » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:10 PM UTC

stavros wrote: post #12

yosito wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never occurred to me to use nicotine pills as an appetite suppressant, though I don't doubt at all that it works. I wonder what other side effects it might have, aside from being potentially habit forming. Does it increase blood pressure? That's the main thing that keeps me from ever indulging in tobacco use.

Is there a pill that makes me wait for hunger before I eat? That's what I need :P

Meditate, listen to your body and mind.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by vorpalhex » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:14 PM UTC

aurizon wrote: post #2

4 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…

If you haven't written any kind of memoir, you should. You have a good tone in your writing.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by Clubber » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:15 PM UTC

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #36

I tried vaping Juul aggressively for a few weeks to try to get addicted. I failed miserably. It just doesn't feel good enough. Zero desire to ever vape again. Very light effects, or more nauseous than anything if you have enough. It is somewhat baffling to me that anyone would find it addictive. I'm not willing to try actual cigarettes for health reasons. Caffeine is very addictive for me though, and it gives physica…

Ya it affects different people differently. I got hooked on nicotine when I was 12 and managed to quit cold turkey for 3 months twice and still started back up when life got stressful. I tried gum, Wellbutrin, cigars, regular vapes, chewing tobacco and nothing lasted. I never thought I would be able to quit, but Juul got me off of cigarettes, but I'm still hooked on nicotine. I drink coffee regularly but if I miss a day, it's not a big deal other than being groggy for the first hour.

On the other hand, some of my friends in college picked up smoking, then quit once they started working and they said it was pretty easy.

Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking

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Post by Clubber » Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 7:19 PM UTC

smoldesu wrote: post #34

SonicTheSith wrote: post #14

4 years ago I quit smoking. While the first week was hell because of the nikotin withdrawal. Getting rid of the habit itself took longer. Waiting outiside, after a meal etc. it is all habit. What I did was buying a vape with nikotin free filling just to have something if my.mind craves the habit. This went on for 3 months reducing the amount I vaped linearly. By month 4 I stopped touching the vape and the only times…

Nicotine in particular is a bitch to quit - I don't understand how a substance that addictive can be legal, especially considering how violent a withdrawl can feel. Breaking off a pot addiction or a heavy drinking stint seems like a cinch by comparison. My advice is to buy some flavored toothpicks. I bought some minty ones from Amazon and they do a great job of satisfying any oral fixation you've got, and placating t…

>I don't understand how a substance that addictive can be legal, especially considering how violent a withdrawl can feel.

Because it was grandfathered in. If you ban it, you fuck up a ton of people hooked on it. I can't imagine what the assault / homicide / suicide rate would spike to for the next decade or two.