Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
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Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
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Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#24 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters.
They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging.
I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appetite suppression when I occasionally pork-up - mainly in winter these days as Covid closed the gyms and weather makes some days times of no biking.
I used to be a bike courier in Toronto back in the 60's - could be 200+ miles/day - fits and starts type of riding, lots slower on weekends. All manner of bikes, mainly fixies (to non bikers = a fixed sprocket = no freewheel no gear changes, but some had Sturmey-Archer hubs they could change but they often were troublesome) Toronto is flat for most document work, so a fixie was fine and if you went up the Avenue road hill, you could quickly use a lower gear freewheel on the other side -(if you rotated to drive the other axle) Mostly delivering documents and small packages (food was not yet a thing). The midnight courier bike race is amazing, 100-200 bikers on an after 12 PM bike race on city streets - I do not know if it still runs - used to be every few months in the summer time. The police hated it as bikers stopped on no lights and the light traffic after 12 PM was the only saving aspect. There were so many back lanes etc in Toronto where the police cars could not go that they only grabbed people if there was a multi bike crash (often happened at the start) Quite the life and society, many are hard riders/drinkers/smokers/druggies, but the last 3 tend to get weeded out. Most leave in their 20's, got real jobs, I went to college = engineering, and it was a summer job after that - all cash based. One guy, Greg, was a real iron man - went to Australia with GF when he was 55 years old about 10 years ago and we lost contact, but he rode hard until he left.
I am 82 now, still bike a lot - mainly in warmer times. my 200 mile days are gone - my knees are worn out and limit my extreme behaviour. I meandered - sorry, but it was a true reminiscence.
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#34 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…
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Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#4Yes obviosly, as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you. I had the chance to follow the whole development of vaping from a niche scene to an industry and it really has been eye opening. How news and studies were deployed offensively to spread FUD and then regulated just enough that all the value created by innovators and communities could be captured by the big tobacco companies.
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#5Yes obviosly, as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you. I had the chance to follow the whole development of vaping from a niche scene to an industry and it really has been eye opening. How news and studies were deployed offensively to spread FUD and then regulated just enough that all the value created by innovators and communities could be captured by the big tobacco companies.
Yep to be honest the whole vaping scene is a good template for what regulatory capture looks like in the USA.
I'm not sure if it's due to lawmaker/parent ignorance, or an actual plan by larger tobacco companies.
Probably a mix of both.
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#64 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…
thanks for sharing, I can relate a bit. I was a bike courier in San Francisco off and on for a few summers and it was a very fun/hard job. It was mostly legal docs going back and forth between the courthouses and the financial district. This was several years back. Anyways, I aspire to be riding my bike when I'm 82!
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#7Yes obviosly, as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you. I had the chance to follow the whole development of vaping from a niche scene to an industry and it really has been eye opening. How news and studies were deployed offensively to spread FUD and then regulated just enough that all the value created by innovators and communities could be captured by the big tobacco companies.
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Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#84 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…
It never occurred to me to use nicotine pills as an appetite suppressant, though I don't doubt at all that it works. I wonder what other side effects it might have, aside from being potentially habit forming. Does it increase blood pressure? That's the main thing that keeps me from ever indulging in tobacco use.
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#9Yes obviosly, as any smoker that was into vaping could and did tell you. I had the chance to follow the whole development of vaping from a niche scene to an industry and it really has been eye opening. How news and studies were deployed offensively to spread FUD and then regulated just enough that all the value created by innovators and communities could be captured by the big tobacco companies.
Yep to be honest the whole vaping scene is a good template for what regulatory capture looks like in the USA. I'm not sure if it's due to lawmaker/parent ignorance, or an actual plan by larger tobacco companies. Probably a mix of both.
Both the incumbent tobacco companies and the state have a huge financial interest in ensuring that a) competition stays out or b) they get the right sized cut from any competitor.
The states scrambled to delay and regulate ecigs just enough to figure out how to tax it because they were afraid of losing revenue from cigarette taxes. They were not just haplessly corrupt but active in that effort.
Re: Association of e-cigarette use with quitting smoking
#104 of my friends who smoked 1-2 packs/day were able to transition to smoking alternatives, 2 went to nicotine pills, 4 Mg from Walmart, stayed on 2-3 of those/day from the morning. The other 2 went to suck-in inhalers. None of them went to visible cloud of smoke emitters. They all eliminated their prior shortness of breath problem, when biking/jogging. I never ever smoked, but I find the 4 Mg pills are good for appeti…
It never occurred to me to use nicotine pills as an appetite suppressant, though I don't doubt at all that it works. I wonder what other side effects it might have, aside from being potentially habit forming. Does it increase blood pressure? That's the main thing that keeps me from ever indulging in tobacco use.
> Does it increase blood pressure?
Yes. [1][2] Most studies are on electronic cigarettes and gum but they show the effects are dose/absorption dependent with pure nicotine, so pills are extremely unlikely to behave differently.
[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40138-020-00219-0
[2] https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1038/clpt.1...