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Apply to work at Google. They have never embraced WFH and probably never will.
yeah but then you have to work for google. big companies have a _lot_ of baggage.
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> It’s just unpopular to say as much online these days because the people who do prefer WFH are sensitive about any suggestions that it isn’t universally superior. Maybe it's because people WFH don't care at all if you want to spend 2 hours commuting, or that you don't mind getting covid by staying 8h a day in a closed office with tons of people. But people who doesn't want WFH, not only want to be in a office, they…
This is the real crux. It's not that people who hate wfh want to be in the office, it's that people that hate wfh want me to be in the office. It's not that one's superior to the other, it's that one wants to force itself on the other.
If the in-office people would just go into the office together and then deal with the remote people as we are, things would be fine. But no, the in-office extroverts want to force us all into their mold.
Do you live in/near a big city? If you do, there should be enough in-office jobs there. I feel similarly about remote but with a couple of differences: - I'm not extroverted all, I still vastly prefer office over remote. - It's not about socialising, I find the work itself much better when I can meet my coworkers in person.
Yeah I think this is an important point. I would still kinda call this "socializing" I think, but there's a huge difference between "just having people to talk about random stuff with" socializing and "interacting with the people I'm spending most of my time working with, talking about the things we're working on" socializing.
I think there will be plenty of traditional “come to the office 200+ days a year” tech jobs once COVID is endemic. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if over half of tech jobs offer an in-office experience for employees who want it. For those companies that do, I’d expect over half of employees will choose 100+ days a year in office. If you want a 5 days/week mandated in-office in Jan 2022, you’re going to have slim pick…
This depends on broader society accepting that COVID is endemic though, and the cessation of all sorts of regulations. I don't doubt it will happen eventually, but I'm not sure if another year is enough time. There has to be some sort of common knowledge catalyst that changes the general approach; as long as events are still being cancelled due to COVID cases, we're not out of the woods and "living with the disease"…
It means the virus is found at a baseline level without external inputs (wikipedia).
(shameless plug) I work at Yieldstreet. Our company is filled with people just like yourself. Our policy is 3 days a week from the office and 2 days remote, so obviously we tend to attract people who like working in an office - in person collaboration, grabbing lunch, etc. We have engineering offices in NYC, Miami, Boston, Malta, and Brazil (Porto Alegre and Florianópolis). Many open engineering roles (recently raise…
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I completely agree with this. Certain phases of work and types of teams do alright remotely - typically a team with a lot of senior engineers in mid-project flow with few external dependencies. But a team with a significant number of juniors, faced with multiple blockers or external dependencies will underperform badly compared to in-person working. Whole days will go missing because of a lack of effective communicat…
This doesn’t seem like it’s a matter of being WFH as much as not using chat tools effectively. It’s very possible to just shoot the juniors a DM asking how they’re doing. or having an active team channel where people can ask for help or offer direction.
The screen context switching is a killer.
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I’m not sure that’s true; some people do get weirdly evangelical about WFH. Personally, I’m glad that people who like WFH have increased opportunities to do it now, so long as I never have to do it again myself. Worst two years of my life.
> I’m not sure that’s true; some people do get weirdly evangelical about WFH. I don’t think its evangelical as much as protective. I for one have had to endure grueling years of working in open office environments. I’ve got pretty severe adhd and anxiety, that’s not a good place for me. With covid, the world shifted to working how I prefer. I’m terrified it’ll go back to how it was. So I’m sorry it’s been a rough cou…
If people like being in the office, fine. I don't understand it, but that's okay. I have ADHD and have a large startle reflex - I hate open plan offices, I dislike commuting, and I get more done from home.
If the office people stop trying to force me into the office with them, we can get along. Otherwise, no. For once in my life I can work in an environment that works for me. I'm not going to let some extrovert ruin it if I can avoid it.
Problem with this is that you don't want to just work in an office, but also have other people from the company work with you at the office. It's different from people who prefer WFH because they don't care if the other guys also work remote or not. Anyway, at this point of the pandemic, I'd still not feel comfortable having lunch with coworkers in a closed space. I just prefer to have lunch myself alone, or at home,…
> It's different from people who prefer WFH because they don't care if the other guys also work remote or not. But lots of remote-evangelists will say things like "If anybody is joining a meeting remotely, everybody needs to call in from their own separate computers". I might able to come in to the office but it still affects my experience.
I see no reason why I'm required to be miserable to enhance their "experience".
Maybe you need more extroversion sources outside of 9-5. Places like gyms, classes, sports clubs, cycling clubs, hiking groups, hunting and fishing with others, I'm just spitballing some COVID-friendly solutions. It doesn't matter if you're bad or noob, just getting some shared time with others having fun, that's the rub.
I'm no extrovert but I love leaving my home every day after work, either to buy groceries, play music with friends at a folk jam, go for a hike, see family, see friends, anything to get out of the house, really.
Last point, ask your HR or managers to set up in person events. We meet IRL about once a month and it's just right for my job.