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Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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I'm curious: how much do you end up spending on coffee while at the coffee shop, and in how many hours? I find sitting in a coffee shop with a laptop comes with the expectation that you'll keep buying coffee, food, _something_ at regular intervals (which of course makes sense). The accepted intervals tend to vary between coffee shops. I was also thinking of working from coffee shops more at some point, but then I won…

When I visited Paris a few months ago, I found a coffee shop that was specifically targeting people who wanted a place to work, and turned the business model upside down: instead of selling you drinks, and you getting the place for free, they would bill you by the hour, and the drinks were free (and good!). Of course, that means you get to stay as long as you want, no questions asked. The prices were 5€/h or 24€/day,…

There is a similar space in Nice: https://www.canafe.fr

But it could be kind of expensive if you're an entry level developer at Paris or Nice salaries.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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What's the name of the coffee shop? :)

I think I know the place he is talking about: HUBSY café & coworking | Saint-Lazare. Been there several times, you pay by the hour with unlimited drinks and some snacks. It's a small place but it is nice and was life-saving for me.

There's also l'Anticafé.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious: how much do you end up spending on coffee while at the coffee shop, and in how many hours? I find sitting in a coffee shop with a laptop comes with the expectation that you'll keep buying coffee, food, _something_ at regular intervals (which of course makes sense). The accepted intervals tend to vary between coffee shops. I was also thinking of working from coffee shops more at some point, but then I won…

When I visited Paris a few months ago, I found a coffee shop that was specifically targeting people who wanted a place to work, and turned the business model upside down: instead of selling you drinks, and you getting the place for free, they would bill you by the hour, and the drinks were free (and good!). Of course, that means you get to stay as long as you want, no questions asked. The prices were 5€/h or 24€/day,…

Yep these are anti cafe models (HUBSY is one) you can find them on google maps. On my side I find paris too expensive I moved to Estonia where any normal cafe is cool to hang out at or co working are at a descent price too (aorund 250$ a month) including free coffee (Palo Alto labs is one)

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Before pandemic I started working remotely and soon noticed that, like OP, working alone doesn't suit me.

I solved this by joining a co-working hub that offers offices to remote workers / entrepreneurs. My employer pays for the hub membership.

I drive to our offices around once a month, but rest of the time I sit in a room with an accountant and gym owner. They are fun to chat and go to lunch with but they don't interrupt me with work related things.

As a bonus I get to meet and hang with professionals in many different areas and I find that really satisfying.

If I change company I work for, I just get the new employer to pay for the office. If I need to move, I prefer cities that have this kind of co-working place.

This is quite doable, here in Finland at least and while it has some downsides, it has worked for me!

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Strangely enough, I can't find a remote job (EU). Since the pandemic started I had about 10 solid offers BUT they did bait-and-switch to 1-2 days a week on-site, and I just find a PITA to move my family to get crumbs of remoteness. The ones I'm sure are fully remote tend to only like candidates who are 100% match, as the pool for remote is much bigger.

Similar happened to me with Stripe, an out of left field "by the way we need you in the office for 3/4 days per week when we return". Goodbye and good luck.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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If you are in the US and willing to relocate, the national labs are not remote. Other government jobs too.

Electric utilities are fairly old-school as well and will lean towards in-person and hybrid work. They will have a few dev / architect / web jobs on the IT side, but definitely not top-tier pay (although an actual 40 hours a week would be typical in the industry).
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