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Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Being a Chinese citizen right now means: - You cannot travel abroad (no passport for average citizens, except for those that study/work abroad) - You cannot go beyond China's intranet - You cannot transfer money out of country legally, pretty soon can't invest in other countries's stocks - You cannot watch Spiderman, BTS, squid games, porn and many many more things legally - You have very little rights as LGBT - You…

I used to think China was some North Korean-style hellscape and hated the country. Then I had a flight transfer through China and decided to take a couple days there just to see how bad it was. Ended up realizing most internet comments and news articles are posted by people who are absolutely obsessed with China and only get their information through seventh-hand sources--it's that insanely distorted. Left loving the…

Then after a few months your Chinese business partner gets a bit too envious and denounce you to the police for "spying" or "fraud". Of course being not Chinese you basically have no rights and you get exit banned or disappeared while your partner takes over everything your owned.

That happened to a lot of people.

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On a relevant note, the Tiananmen Massacre monument at the University of Hong Kong was removed last night. They were careful to barricade everything to prevent any videos or images of the monument being destroyed. https://hongkongfp.com/2021/12/23/breaking-fears-for-condemn...

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5041987 Print it out again and reassemble?

Me and my friend just bought a 8K resin printer. Guess what I'll print first.

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Wuhan starts with the same (or at least something very similar and indistinguishable to me) semivowel as the English word west. Pinyin w + ang is ∅ + uang. Either way there's a w sound in there.

> Pinyin w + ang is ∅ + uang. Either way there's a w sound in there. Correct. > Wuhan starts with the same (or at least something very similar and indistinguishable to me) semivowel as the English word west. Nope. This one is ∅ + u. You can listen to the name of Wuhan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWw6emkxmos#t=82

Yes I know how Wuhan sounds like and I clearly hear a w sound in there, don't you? Maybe it's not as clear as in the English word west, but you can't deny it's there no? Don't 我 and 武 start with the same sound? Do 窝 and 喔 sound the same to you?

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I agree entirely with you. Open competitive marketplace is definitely not an easy goal.

Then what good would open standards do? Genuine question, since I have the same fears about decentralized social networking that the above poster mentioned.

It atleast opens up the space for more healthy competition, and will aid in shaping the conversation for regulation. I don't see it as a final solution, but rather a step in the right direction. So in short, I don't think a True and pure open market is the right way, much like a completely open market is healthy. There is a middleway. But the current situation seems like the worst solution.

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Please stop "ranting and vomiting" on HN. Not only does it not help, you're reinforcing exactly the situation you're deploring. That damages this community in a deeper way. HN is a highly international community but it is also highly Western. You can't expect attitudes on topics remote from Western understanding to be either balanced or informed—especially not when the topic is politically and nationally charged. The…

It's not just a civility burden, it's a factual burden. If somebody came onto HN posting obviously dumb stuff about how American people feel and think, they'd be downvoted, because everyone can see the obvious falsehood. But when it's Chinese, majority vote of Americans decides the truth! They will tell you the real deal on how things work inside China. And if someone calls them morons, we have you to come in and kee…

I'm not sure what your point is. Obviously majority vote does not decide the truth, and ignorant people don't know what they're talking about. And still we have to try to find a way to operate this forum and not allow people to destroy it. Burning the community down doesn't serve the truth in any way.

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the best propaganda is the correct truth, no?

Correct, but Chomsky wanted people to believe it was lies.

Because he believed so, too. The US would have had incentive to paint the picture worse of the communist side doings after they left the area in a mess. After the pentagon papers and everything, that would have been a plausible scenario - it just happened to be real murder on big scale, even unseen in sowjet russia before.

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I used to think China was some North Korean-style hellscape and hated the country. Then I had a flight transfer through China and decided to take a couple days there just to see how bad it was. Ended up realizing most internet comments and news articles are posted by people who are absolutely obsessed with China and only get their information through seventh-hand sources--it's that insanely distorted. Left loving the…

This sounds like a paid endorsement sponsored by CCP. No real refutes, just brush air away by hand. You visited a few times huh? I was born and lived there for 30 years.

Did you even bother to read my top level comment about not calling people you disagree with as shills before you replied to it? Or did you just piggyback off the top comment at the time to soapbox?
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