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Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Why would Shanghai police care to manufacture opinion abroad? I consume a decent amount of news and rarely see Shanghai mentioned in American newspapers. Or is this supposed to be one part of a larger effort, tasked to work on stories that are actually of global concern, having nothing to do with Shanghai?

The Shanghai party chairman (and its always a man) is pretty influential and has a good chance of scoring a high-level national role after their stint. Also as the richest city with the most resources, Shanghai is often delegated national tasks...you shouldn't think of it at the local/state/national government separation that exists in the USA.

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>You cannot travel abroad (no passport for average citizens, except for those that study/work abroad) Really? What accounts for all the Chinese tourists visiting Europe/UK/USA? I have a friend who runs a hostel in Edinburgh and the majority of her guests are Chinese so much so that they have had to print signs in Mandarin asking people to abide by certain rules. >You cannot transfer money out of country legally, pret…

The policy changed pretty recently, a friend of mine married to a Chinese citizen, and has been living there for almost a decade. They left in 2019 because the attitude to foreigners working in China, and Chinese going abroad has undergone a sea change. There are strict controls on capital flows, it's much harder to get work or visit visas for Chinese going abroad, many Chinese working abroad have been put under pres…

I literally transfer money back and forth almost every week. So, not true. Regular international wire transfer work just fine, and most major banks allow it. Even foreigners can open such accounts. I have one.

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https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-... https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu... > the Committee found ample evidence to suggest that the Russian government was developing and implementing capabilities to interfere in the 2016 elections, including undermining confidence in U.S. democratic institutions and voting processes. Calling it hysteria is counterproductive. With t…

Voice of America, BBC... (I suspect that both France and Germany have something similar. I'd be surprised if Finland did.)

France has France24 and RFI and Germany has DW.

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So much of social media pre-supposes that no entity would spend the kinda money to influence an issue. They didn't take a state with limited resources into account.

There is plenty of material published by NYT that is very much on par with what they are criticizing social media for.

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What are you talking about?

Wuhan starts with the same (or at least something very similar and indistinguishable to me) semivowel as the English word west. Pinyin w + ang is ∅ + uang. Either way there's a w sound in there.

> Pinyin w + ang is ∅ + uang. Either way there's a w sound in there.

Correct.

> Wuhan starts with the same (or at least something very similar and indistinguishable to me) semivowel as the English word west.

Nope. This one is ∅ + u.

You can listen to the name of Wuhan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWw6emkxmos#t=82

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post #103

Before you use this as an excuse to accuse the commenter you disagree with as being a Wumao, note that China's propaganda strategy serves to distract rather than directly engage, as they would rather minimize engagement. It's the same principle of "don't feed the trolls." Here's a Harvard paper that covers this topic more in depth, though it's about domestic propaganda: https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c…

> a Wumao For reference, the initial W doesn't represent a sound, so this would be "an wumao". (Same for Wuhan.)

Applying English rules to Chinese words is the ultimate folly. Also, it really depends on your dialect of Chinese, I always hear wu with a w (e.g. woo) if the wu is at the beginning of the word. Inside a word (like fuwuyuan), I usually don't hear or say it.

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On a related note, we have here in the US a sudden wave of "culture revolution 3.0" with its proponents using the very same tactics. It's well known that Xi is preparing to enter the chip manufacturing business in 10 years, and since US is the only real opponent, Xi wisely chose to disarm us with the adapted version of "culture revolution". For this reason, I believe, he'll massively increase investments in pushing t…

xi wasted tens of $ billions in chip manufacturing subsidies. In that field you cant buy success

I meant Xi is going to take TSMC, so he's technically going to "enter the chipmaking business".

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Being a Chinese citizen right now means: - You cannot travel abroad (no passport for average citizens, except for those that study/work abroad) - You cannot go beyond China's intranet - You cannot transfer money out of country legally, pretty soon can't invest in other countries's stocks - You cannot watch Spiderman, BTS, squid games, porn and many many more things legally - You have very little rights as LGBT - You…

None of these can be attributed to authoritarian, or some form of CCP brutality, when moderate amount of scrutiny is applied ... > - You cannot travel abroad (no passport for average citizens, except for those that study/work abroad) This is of course because of China's CVOID policy, which is 0 tolerance. That's a rational decision of China's high-density population, and manufacturing-based economy. I do not think it…

This is an US site, most people here believe that they hear from the media, and is understandable, the same way most Chinese people believe that they see in CCTV. I get people in China asking if I'm safe, or if my house was assaulted by antifa. I think people if they are really interested of what is happening in either country should do their research, instead of parroting what they hear in Youtube. But yeah, you will get downvoted , so will I. ;)

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So much of social media pre-supposes that no entity would spend the kinda money to influence an issue. They didn't take a state with limited resources into account.

They do know. This activity is great for MAUs and session duration.

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post #84

there seems to be a really powerful group of people that don't approve of facebook selling access to "eyeballs" fairly and equally to anybody willing to buy this. I conjecture that they'd prefer if somebody (i.e. them) had preferential access

Who's "they"?

The people described in their first paragraph.
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