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Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Should this be illegal? No, probably not. Is this the future I want to live in? Also no.

> Is this the future I want to live in? Also no.

No need to fret the future my friend. The future is now. This dystopian future people keep fearing is happening now. It is the present reality.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

#162
to every person writing here "is this the future we will be living in"? So do you want legal owners hire people who will spy on you, ask family members where is the car, etc...

After they'll find the car their life will be more complicated , they need to make a key. Coordinate if this is the right car. If car is locked/has custom security, lots of noise in neighborhood due to alarm, so basically everyone around your block is stressed because you didn't pay.

And that's fees people who pay the bills will cover. Do you think this kind of services are cheap? If they can't return the car, that will be also split between future lease agreement. They will be included one way or another in your loan/monthly payments.

Doing so , they basically decreasing the price of such event at least 5x.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

#163

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A first step. Won’t be long before the car goes to the repossession lot itself. Tesla is evolving country music: not only will your girl leave you, so will your truck.

Ha. Though my guess is, once self-driving is reliable enough to do that, the economics of car ownership are going to flip completely. It won't make sense anymore to have a car that spends most of its time sitting unused in your garage.

It depends how easily they can be cleaned of others’ odors and messes, and how often they need to get cleaned.

Presumably if the rate of mess is low enough and there are extra cars, you would just request a new one. Then they punish the person who left the mess or odor, disincentivizing them from doing it again. Probably need cameras monitoring the inside of the car.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

#164

I had a medical bill for a small amount like $60 sent to collections because they didn’t have the right address. Never called or emailed me. Judging by the comments here, the healthcare co would be well within its rights to pickpocket me.

What was the outcome? I am currently in the same situation.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

#165

I had a medical bill for a small amount like $60 sent to collections because they didn’t have the right address. Never called or emailed me. Judging by the comments here, the healthcare co would be well within its rights to pickpocket me.

With insufficient information we must always defer to the corporation or the government. Might makes right.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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What if your dog is in the truck? Can you then go after them for kidnapping?

Dogs aren't considered people (in the US), so it would be considered stolen property _at best_ if this were an actual thing. Likely, they'll pass the animal on to a shelter and give you the info as to where to pick them up. It wouldn't be considered "stealing".

To this point, after crossing the state line from Nevada into California, there are highway signs that state the fines for littering and abadoning an animal on the side of the highway. The fine for littering is significantly higher than animal abandonment.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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While this is an "interesting" story, I'd love to get some verification on it. It sounds plausible, but almost illegal ? I'm in EU so don't know how really things work over there, but I would assume Tesla would need a judicial order siding with the bank to be able to do this ? I mean it's probably not the wild west over there. Or is it ?

Yeah, it's weird how a random Facebook post with no evidence is the basis for this story. It's one thing if your aunt believes it. It's another if some content farm posts it as fact. It's quite embarrassing to see such an article on the front page here though.

It's probably possible, and dealerships usually work with repo men/banks, but the point is, the article certainly did nothing to verify anything.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

#169
So at what point will Teslas also start snitching on their own owners and other drivers for driving too fast, being in the wrong place at the time a crime happened and reporting copyrighted music played in the wrong country?

Is there already a design doc for that somewhere in Teslas ticketing system?

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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So…in case you plan to not pay for it but still keep it anyway? I am really struggling to understand the mindset here of what I assume are mostly well paid professional software developers. If I defaulted on a car loan (I don’t know the details exactly off the top of my head, but this entails more than just missing a payment) I’d be quite ashamed of myself and return the car myself with an apology. I cannot understan…

It has happened that cars and even homes have been "repoed" as a result due to a mistake by a bank.

> It has happened that cars and even homes have been "repoed" as a result due to a mistake by a bank.

So the obvious conclusion is to... eliminate the "repo" mechanism entirely, on the off chance it might get abused/mistakenly used?

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