What is legality of making alternative firmware for Tesla? I guess they could argue with safety. Does the car loose road worthy certification, if its software is altered?
Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
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> someone with the key can now remote summon the car Cars with remote summons features today basically just crawl forward a few metres to help you get out of a parking spot. They aren't self-driving across town to a repossession lot, if that's what you're thinking.
A first step. Won’t be long before the car goes to the repossession lot itself. Tesla is evolving country music: not only will your girl leave you, so will your truck.
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#143Not much into US law, but can someone tell us what is happening if you had personal possession of value in your car?
This is my problem with it. Not that payments shouldn't be kept up to date. But that it moves decision making on the issue to a corporate entity a million miles away and you can bet there won't be any accounting for personal situations, or admin errors, or anything else. Your car will just be gone. Sorry, f@ck tesla on this.
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From 2014: Ford Exec: 'We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law' Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 I too wish that there would be an easy way to disconnect my car (it is of zero use to me).
Take the SIM card out. Or better yet, don't buy a car that tracks you.
In Europe, eCall (automated emergency call) has been mandatory since 2018.
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We do not have Repo in EU like they do in the US.
Are you sure about that? I thought repossession of collateral from a defaulted loan is a basic part of cultures with both common and code law. https://www.frenchentree.com/french-property/law/so-you-cant... What happens if you don't pay your mortgage where you live?
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#146Has anyone "jailbroke" a Telsa to remove this type of stuff?
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
We do not have Repo in EU like they do in the US.
Are you sure about that? I thought repossession of collateral from a defaulted loan is a basic part of cultures with both common and code law. https://www.frenchentree.com/french-property/law/so-you-cant... What happens if you don't pay your mortgage where you live?
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No, if you don't pay for it then it's the bank's car. It's like saying "the super stole my TV!!" when actually the super just let the police in with a search warrant, and they took the TV you stole down to the station.
Tesla still has remote access to the cars its has sold and can unlock them if the authorities request them to do so. If that is not a backdoor I don't know what is. Evidently, the car isn't yours, even though you have paid for it. Tesla still owns it.
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#149Not much into US law, but can someone tell us what is happening if you had personal possession of value in your car?
This is my problem with it. Not that payments shouldn't be kept up to date. But that it moves decision making on the issue to a corporate entity a million miles away and you can bet there won't be any accounting for personal situations, or admin errors, or anything else. Your car will just be gone. Sorry, f@ck tesla on this.
If the loan is secured on the car then it's not "your car" until the loan is paid.
But sure you're right, mistakes can be made and being able to switch off your car remotely is somewhat dystopian even if you're 100% in the clear.