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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> Langoor monkeys are a fearsome force in India and not to be messed with. I thought langoors were more friendly towards humans compared to macaques?

As a general rule, animals never attack first. When humans encroach the traditional lands of the animals there are conflicts waiting to happen. Monkeys are smart and usually don’t bother humans, unless it’s a matter of food or threat to their group. Edit: I'm surprised at the downvotes, isn't human-wildlife conflict in Indian forests well documented?

They big mad if you say humans are killers. The monkeys would do that to any species once threatened.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Deer? Those are from 500 pounds to over one thousand pounds. Oh courses a person can’t engage in a physical fight with them.

I'm guessing you're from Europe, because what you call Deer, the USA call Caribou or Elk, and what we call Deer aren't nearly that big.

Or he has seen Disney movies and thinks caribous are male deers.

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In Singapore last week, an older man was taking a morning walk in a park and spotted a pack of otters on the path ahead of him. At the same time, a jogger ran through the pack and startled them (some reports said trampled one of the pups). The reaction of the pack was to attack the nearest human - the older man: As the runner ran past Spencer and disappeared into the distance, the otters instead set their sights on S…

FYI, he ran into the path of a pack of otters during his morning run and that is the reason why he was “attacked”. It is very possible he stepped onto an otter while doing that too, which would explain their behaviour.

What is interesting is he lawyered up, fabricated a fantastical story and somehow got the attention of Western media, all to seek compensation from the park. (And how many people believed him)

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Think twice about running head-on into a pack of animals regardless of their size.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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As a general rule, animals never attack first. When humans encroach the traditional lands of the animals there are conflicts waiting to happen. Monkeys are smart and usually don’t bother humans, unless it’s a matter of food or threat to their group. Edit: I'm surprised at the downvotes, isn't human-wildlife conflict in Indian forests well documented?

At least one animal does. Homo sapiens. We are not separate from nature, we are just a extreme of nature.

More generally, all predators do. We aren't the relentless killing machines that cats are though.

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The Vedas are supposedly that old

Yes, but (without being a scholar of religion) I had always assumed that Hinduism was far older than its oldest surviving texts, just as Judaism, in some form, is older than whatever year we date the Torah to.

it depends on what you call 'hinduism'. it's one of the world's most heterodox religions and has absorbed a huge amount of cultural tradition from at least 300 languages.

The rig veda is probably what most people agree is one of the foundational texts of hinduism, but it dates to about 1500 BC.

However, the vedas probably absorbed a lot of earlier cultural tradition from the indus valley civilization, especially worship of Shiva-like deities. How much is however, debated.

just like mesopotamia, there was a lot of syncretism.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

People have this funny idea that war is a human invention and that nature would be peaceful and quiet without us. But it turns out ants and termites have been at it for probably over 100 million years: https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/why-ants-and-termite...

I think that some people have noticed that greater progress is made through cooperation which is why they gape their mouths when the people running the war machine buy an extra yacht for their great grandkids.

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An article on the internet tickled the same insecurity trigger that led you to adopt a tough guy dog in the first place. Observe yourself a bit more.

Great insight. I wonder if it applies to him. Perhaps the dog was gifted to him without any choice of his own.

There’s alway a choice. For example a choice not to accept a doberman puppy.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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As a general rule, animals never attack first. When humans encroach the traditional lands of the animals there are conflicts waiting to happen. Monkeys are smart and usually don’t bother humans, unless it’s a matter of food or threat to their group. Edit: I'm surprised at the downvotes, isn't human-wildlife conflict in Indian forests well documented?

At least one animal does. Homo sapiens. We are not separate from nature, we are just a extreme of nature.

Most humans actually don't run around attacking stuff.
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