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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by gonehome »

vmception wrote: post #3

> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

If the monkeys start pushing people off buildings that seems like an escalation? If war breaks out between the monkeys and the humans - I’d think we’d have a decisive advantage?

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by hn8788 »

mc32 wrote: post #77
abc_lisper wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All wild animals are stronger than they look. Humans are comparatively weak.. most of us can’t fight a deer. Monkeys are intelligent. They are aware of leverage and potential danger. They jump on people, chase, scratch and bite them

Deer? Those are from 500 pounds to over one thousand pounds. Oh courses a person can’t engage in a physical fight with them.

I'm guessing you're from Europe, because what you call Deer, the USA call Caribou or Elk, and what we call Deer aren't nearly that big.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by bargle0 »

riazrizvi wrote: post #83
mc32 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deer? Those are from 500 pounds to over one thousand pounds. Oh courses a person can’t engage in a physical fight with them.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, our native California Mule deer that commonly roam suburban streets, weigh in between 100 and 300lbs.

White tailed deer on the east coast and midwest are in a similar size range.

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Post by tomaskafka »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #92
garyclarke27 wrote: post #11

I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

An article on the internet tickled the same insecurity trigger that led you to adopt a tough guy dog in the first place. Observe yourself a bit more.

Read also a study of car makers on correlation of big SUVs and insecurity.

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Post by unmole »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #74

I grew up and studied in a University town in Central India, not far from Majalgaon FTA. I've personally witnessed the rivalry of the monkeys and the pariah dogs. In one particular instance a youngish dog was chasing the monkeys and wouldn't let them get on the ground. The leader of the monkey gang made a sudden move, swooped down and carried the dog pup on the tree and just dropped it from there. The pup survived an…

> Langoor monkeys are a fearsome force in India and not to be messed with.

I thought langoors were more friendly towards humans compared to macaques?

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Post by ilamont »

In Singapore last week, an older man was taking a morning walk in a park and spotted a pack of otters on the path ahead of him. At the same time, a jogger ran through the pack and startled them (some reports said trampled one of the pups). The reaction of the pack was to attack the nearest human - the older man:

As the runner ran past Spencer and disappeared into the distance, the otters instead set their sights on Spencer and "went crazy".

"I didn't move quick enough and they just jumped me and they [were] on me and severely bit my ankle, made me buckle, and they jumped on my bottom and pushed me. And these things like... massive... [these] things [are] like dogs."

Spencer said that the otters even tried to bite his face, but their teeth sank into his finger instead when he raised his hands to defend himself.

https://mothership.sg/2021/12/otters-bite-man-botanic-garden... (Warning - graphic)

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by jdavis703 »

jimmyed wrote: post #69
cynusx wrote: post #64

I remember from a visit in Kenya that the way they control monkeys was to keep shooting the alpha until eventually their next leader forces the group to retreat and leave the human settlements alone.

Wonder how many times this has been done with humans throughout history

When America was trying to install a “democratic” government in Iraq there were a series of assassinations. In that case however the situation eventually stabilized.

So that strategy is only as good as your opponents will. And it turns out there’s a lot of men who are willing to throw away their life in the hope of the power, money and prestige of being the top boss.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by GekkePrutser »

resoluteteeth wrote: post #34
darkwater wrote: post #16

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

If it's evil for primates to kill 250 dogs after one primate infant was killed is it evil for primates to kill 17 million minks because they could get a virus and theoretically spread that to primates?

Take into consideration though that these minks were bred specifically to kill them for their skin.

The end outcome was a ban on mink farms which is a pretty positive one for animal rights.

I also think the e culling of all those minks was horrible but it's not as black and white as that.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by 323 »

resoluteteeth wrote: post #34
darkwater wrote: post #16

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

If it's evil for primates to kill 250 dogs after one primate infant was killed is it evil for primates to kill 17 million minks because they could get a virus and theoretically spread that to primates?

Bad example, those minks were going to be killed anyway, that's the single reason so many of them were allowed to exist in that place to start with.
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