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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by amitheonlyone »

mistrial9 wrote: post #93
option_greek wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strength doesn't come into the picture with monkeys. They attack by biting and scratching and often from hidden places like tree tops or rooftops. In many parts of India, the dogs are afraid to even bark at them. That said, adult monkeys are pretty big (3.5-4 feet) and aren't all that light weight. Anecdotally, a baby monkey fell into our neighbors house through bars on the roof and a group of almost 100 monkeys surr…

well, the anxious animals got the baby back.. I am certain the monkeys did not ask nicely! but let's look at it differently, the monkey pack acted together right away for the safety of the smallest one.. did they hurt the humans? the story does not say that; a more aggressive animal would certainly hurt a human right away for the sake of a small one.. but those animals have been hunted and removed.. +1 monkeys from m…

The story does say: Now, villagers reported that the monkeys are targeting small children which has created a panic within the village.

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Post by JadeNB »

xeromal wrote: post #112
drclau wrote: post #105

If you are in doubt about this being revenge, because you think revenge is exclusively a human behavior, then have a look at the Gombe Chimpanzee War [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

Thanks for sharing this. What a read though I wish it had more details!

It looks like the Morris book "War! What is it good for?" referenced at the end might have more details.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by 323 »

garyclarke27 wrote: post #11

I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

Smartness always trumps brute force. It's why we are kings of the world, and not the tigers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMLGuOkK6w

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by rambambram »

option_greek wrote: post #39
ipeefreely wrote: post #20

I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.

I doubt that. Try shooting an arrow at a crow (obviously not killing it) or throw a stone at a group of monkeys the next time chance presents it self. Not a good idea. One of my childhood nemesis were a group of crows from a tree nearby at which I shot an arrow with a home made toy bow (none were even hit). Those things harassed me for months before eventually forgetting (forgiving?) the incident :)

Sounds like a story I once read in a children horror book.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by laurent92 »

mistrial9 wrote: post #93
option_greek wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strength doesn't come into the picture with monkeys. They attack by biting and scratching and often from hidden places like tree tops or rooftops. In many parts of India, the dogs are afraid to even bark at them. That said, adult monkeys are pretty big (3.5-4 feet) and aren't all that light weight. Anecdotally, a baby monkey fell into our neighbors house through bars on the roof and a group of almost 100 monkeys surr…

well, the anxious animals got the baby back.. I am certain the monkeys did not ask nicely! but let's look at it differently, the monkey pack acted together right away for the safety of the smallest one.. did they hurt the humans? the story does not say that; a more aggressive animal would certainly hurt a human right away for the sake of a small one.. but those animals have been hunted and removed.. +1 monkeys from m…

But how do other monkeys know they participate to a legitimate cause? They don’t have language to express reason, facts, inferences or values.

Which strikes me, because they really did “ask nicely”, not attacking humans and behaving in a measured way. Where I’m coming from is:

Is language necessary? Human crowds are most often fair (doing a revolution is quite fair, even if individual events are a bit… messy. But crowds stuff up sometimes, ie Jesus vs Romans). Might we (humans) act about as fairly if we didn’t have language at all to express our griefs? All that bullshit that goes on in courts, sometimes fair sometimes not; all the bullshit that goes on in companies about metoo: Does it “average out” the same as a crowd of angry monkeys, or are we effectively more efficient at delivering justice? Is our language a vehicle for reason, or is it just a vehicle of feelings and anger that happen to translate itself into words that seem rational?

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Post by Wiseacre »

jimmyed wrote: post #69
cynusx wrote: post #64

I remember from a visit in Kenya that the way they control monkeys was to keep shooting the alpha until eventually their next leader forces the group to retreat and leave the human settlements alone.

Wonder how many times this has been done with humans throughout history

The assassinations in the 60s serve as examples.

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Post by JadeNB »

leephillips wrote: post #111
riazrizvi wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly but Hinduism is 4000 years old, so it might be a while before we see that change.

Where does the 4000 figure come from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism traces the roots of Hinduism as far back as possibly 1900 BC.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by [deleted] »

wiseowise wrote: post #80
tebruno99 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have You ever tried to pull Yourself up to the top of a tree with 1 arm in 30 seconds?

Has little to do with strength. Haftor can't really do this, but I'm pretty sure he can rip one of those monkeys in half if he catches it.

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by johndevor »

fallingknife wrote: post #54
tantalor wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why are people surprised Who said anybody is surprised?

It's posted to HN. You wouldn't see "${western_city} Animal Control Removes Stray Dogs from Park After Child Killed" on HN.

This is not a small group of dogs, but a prolonged war between two species.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #92
garyclarke27 wrote: post #11

I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

An article on the internet tickled the same insecurity trigger that led you to adopt a tough guy dog in the first place. Observe yourself a bit more.

Great insight. I wonder if it applies to him. Perhaps the dog was gifted to him without any choice of his own.
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