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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by option_greek »

analog31 wrote: post #23
h2odragon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd bet a pair of them could pick up and throw a human; if they could get the co-ordination right. 50lbs of dog is a bad opponent for a human, 2 of them and humans lose that fight fairly often. Some of the dogs in the video I saw were that size and larger; so if the monkeys can harass and herd them effectively then I'd expect them to be able to do it to a human as well. A human prepared to fight and ready to start ki…

The article said the humans have "culled" about 1000 of the monkeys. It's interesting that we use different euphemisms depending on who's doing the killing.

In Malaysia not in India. In India, laws don't allow killing of even rabis infested dogs forget about monkeys. Not to mention monkeys are considered sacred.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by pharmakom »

jason-phillips wrote: post #12
vmception wrote: post #3

> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

> how strong are these monkeys? I believe the right question is, how intelligent and distempered are these monkeys? Intelligence > brawn Strength is mostly immaterial once I (as a hypothetical monkey) understand that I can use my agility to rip your eyeballs from their sockets, which then effectively removes your ability to pose a threat to me.

Weirdly specific.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by h2odragon »

analog31 wrote: post #23
h2odragon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd bet a pair of them could pick up and throw a human; if they could get the co-ordination right. 50lbs of dog is a bad opponent for a human, 2 of them and humans lose that fight fairly often. Some of the dogs in the video I saw were that size and larger; so if the monkeys can harass and herd them effectively then I'd expect them to be able to do it to a human as well. A human prepared to fight and ready to start ki…

The article said the humans have "culled" about 1000 of the monkeys. It's interesting that we use different euphemisms depending on who's doing the killing.

IMO they don't need to be "culling," which would imply more "humane" means of killing like rifle shots or poisons. They need to go out and kill some monkeys in full sight of the other monkeys, in a personal and ugly way that the moneys understand. Swords and clubs time. Hang bits of the victims where the rest of them hang out.

Works for coyotes.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by resoluteteeth »

darkwater wrote: post #16

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

If it's evil for primates to kill 250 dogs after one primate infant was killed is it evil for primates to kill 17 million minks because they could get a virus and theoretically spread that to primates?

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by bluedino »

vmception wrote: post #3

> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

"How many two year old...monkeys could you take in a fight?"

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by hiptobecubic »

darkwater wrote: post #16

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

If you're going to go that far, maybe they are just trying to encourage the dogs to self-regulate.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by wly_cdgr »

darkwater wrote: post #16

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

To me it sounds more like a straw that broke the camel's back moment. They've had enough and they can't take it anymore and are lashing out in a madness of grief and rage

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by option_greek »

ipeefreely wrote: post #20

I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.

I doubt that. Try shooting an arrow at a crow (obviously not killing it) or throw a stone at a group of monkeys the next time chance presents it self. Not a good idea. One of my childhood nemesis were a group of crows from a tree nearby at which I shot an arrow with a home made toy bow (none were even hit). Those things harassed me for months before eventually forgetting (forgiving?) the incident :)

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Post by rmah »

ipeefreely wrote: post #20

I'm not sure if monkeys experience revenge the way humans do. As one of the comments mentioned in the article, it's probably just a survival instinct.

Perhaps revenge is just a survival instinct that humans sometimes try to suppress through "logic".
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