I resubscribed to YouTube TV a few months ago for two channels: CNBC and ESPN. The rest of my family doesn't watch anything on it which is why I had cancelled it a couple of years ago. CNBC isn't worth $50/month to me. I'll give them another week before changing anything as I imagine someone is going to bend with this being college bowl season.
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Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#72Great… all the shows my kid watched just got removed from the DVR.
Even if they make a deal tomorrow, we had so much recorded that just disappeared.
Going to be lots of crying kids in the morning
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't want to watch broadcast TV (I don't), don't watch it? I guess I don't get the hate. There are a ton of things I don't watch or listen to. And broadcast TV probably does now and then produce something I do want to watch on-demand.
I don't watch it. > I don't get the hate. I live in a society with people who do watch it. I don't like the way broadcast TV turned people into numbed couch potatoes watching hours of ads a day.
The ads are not any more of a problem than the content and the shitty content is available in many formats.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does OTA not work where you're at?
Yeah, OTA doesn't really work anywhere except cities. I used to sell "big screens" at Sears and I was asked that question so frequently, especially back when cable was switching from analog to digital. Years 2004-2006.
I live 40 miles outside of a major city. Even back in analog days with a big antenna I couldn't pick anything up; there's a hill that blocks all the signals between me and the city.
Eventually I got cable but dropped it a couple years ago.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#75Anything that hamper's Google's continued effort to turn youtube into the new cable TV is good in my book. I hope they lose all the other channels too, and then I hope those channels die anyway, along with the old-media companies that own them. A pipe dream, I know.
Why do you care if I enjoy a product from a company? Is my enjoyment of it harming you in some way?
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#76The cable provider / content provider dispute playbook:
1. Cease broadcasting / licensing of content
2. Talk to media to patiently explain how your adversary is responsible for depriving you of your precious {sports team | Marvel hero}
3. Hope ensuing social media / support queue shit storm hurts your adversary more than you (by the looks of these comments, advantage Disney)
4. Sign a deal
5. Repeat at next contract!
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
the youtube TV model (which is also the Sony Vue (they're gone! heh) / Sling model) is nothing like the cable TV model, because these companies do not provide any last mile physical infrastructure. therefore you can switch between any number of providers with no effort. Assuming the other providers can get their fucking act together techinically/user-experience-wise (YTV is like vastly better UX-wise, looks like PS V…
Wouldn’t a liberal naturally be in favor of individual liberties and freedoms, and by extension of the free markets?
Liberal means progressive which means giving up individual rights while controlling the market to protect individuals from bad choices.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't want to watch broadcast TV (I don't), don't watch it? I guess I don't get the hate. There are a ton of things I don't watch or listen to. And broadcast TV probably does now and then produce something I do want to watch on-demand.
I don't watch it. > I don't get the hate. I live in a society with people who do watch it. I don't like the way broadcast TV turned people into numbed couch potatoes watching hours of ads a day.
As opposed to netflix users who are more likely not to binge because not having ads and having the next show play makes it less easy to binge?
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#79I resubscribed to YouTube TV a few months ago for two channels: CNBC and ESPN. The rest of my family doesn't watch anything on it which is why I had cancelled it a couple of years ago. CNBC isn't worth $50/month to me. I'll give them another week before changing anything as I imagine someone is going to bend with this being college bowl season.
For what it’s worth they are reducing their pricing by $15 while they figure it out.
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#80Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want. [1] Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app)…
Curious what the remaining value of YouTube TV even is then. With most sports cut out is it really worth $50/mo?
There's also late night talk shows, reality TV, etc. I don't really watch any of this and, hence, don't get cable TV any longer but many do. I think just having something on in the background is appealing to some (although there are alternatives to that).
My sense is that there's very little really interesting scripted TV on non-premium streaming broadcast/cable at this point. I certainly haven't heard of any "must see TV" on any of the networks or even stations like AMC for ages.