YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
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Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#2Disney: No thanks, no deal and no ESPN for You(Tube).
You simply need more of this for YouTube to listen these days instead of them banning its own users and creators.
Just look at this typical ESPN fan:
> “I will cancel immediately if you can’t work a deal,”
The same will happen for Disney fans watching on YouTube and it is working. They'll just run to the Disney+ app instead.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#3Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want.
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Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app), ESPNU, ESPNEWS SEC Network, ACC Network.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#4Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want. [1] Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app)…
I don't have YouTube Tv but your comment almost made me dry heave a little realizing we are back at square one with cable tv and bundling channels users don't want and forcing them to pay for stuff. I haven't had cable tv in years but seldom don't miss a show I want to watch. It is mostly all online if you know where to search. Also Canadian so no one comes knocking on my door for downloading.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#5Those channels should be in a separate tier to clearly represent the cost. Instead they rely on required package deals that subsidize their insane costs. More plans need a disney- tier
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#6Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want. [1] Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app)…
I don't have YouTube Tv but your comment almost made me dry heave a little realizing we are back at square one with cable tv and bundling channels users don't want and forcing them to pay for stuff. I haven't had cable tv in years but seldom don't miss a show I want to watch. It is mostly all online if you know where to search. Also Canadian so no one comes knocking on my door for downloading.
Sports is the anchor by which unbundling won’t happen for a long time, especially with linear TV.
This is partially because it benefits the conglomerates business models to have as many channels and content streams as possible to sell ad time on, and partially because for sports teams they can functionally name their price.
In seattle, the brand new hockey team is only available through Root Sports, a smallish production company owned by Warner media and the baseball team. You can only watch the new hockey team if you subscribe to a cable package or online cable package (YouTube tv etc).
Why would a brand new team with no established fan base want to not be in front of as many eyeballs as they can? Because they earn more money when someone pays them to put them behind a cable company.
At no point does this “competition”, which it isn’t, benefit consumers. We used to regulate things like this.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#7Disney: No thanks, no deal and no ESPN for You(Tube). You simply need more of this for YouTube to listen these days instead of them banning its own users and creators. Just look at this typical ESPN fan: > “I will cancel immediately if you can’t work a deal,” The same will happen for Disney fans watching on YouTube and it is working. They'll just run to the Disney+ app instead.
I doubt Youtube/Google cares that much. It's not really youtubes core business, more of a side gig for a set of products (cable channels) which frankly are in the process of dying.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#8Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want. [1] Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app)…
I don't have YouTube Tv but your comment almost made me dry heave a little realizing we are back at square one with cable tv and bundling channels users don't want and forcing them to pay for stuff. I haven't had cable tv in years but seldom don't miss a show I want to watch. It is mostly all online if you know where to search. Also Canadian so no one comes knocking on my door for downloading.
Right? I used to just turn on YouTube TV for hurricane season for local coverage in case of a power outage. It's far easier to keep a cell phone charged than deal with a digital antenna (which might have been lost to high winds anyway) and relatively power hungry TV just to see what's going on. Then my wife started using the app too so I can't easily turn it off.
Back when Big Ugly Dishes were a thing it was far cheaper to piecemeal subscribe to your desired packages. Then DirecTV came along and forced the cable tv model on their subscribers and lobbied hard for laws that killed BUDs. I remember doing the math at the time and DirecTV was about double the price of a BUD.
Now we're back to adhoc subscription if you want to use a bunch of disparate apps and websites, so in one way it could be cheaper. But each streaming site charges retail prices to consumers so in aggregate it ends up costing as much or more than in the cable model. Even so the forced subsidy of ESPN in particular has always been a deeply aggravating thing for me. Sort of like agreeing to split lunch evenly and then discovering after the fact everyone's having sandwiches except the one guy who ordered steak.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#9Maybe all content creators around the world should form a union to fight against the big platforms.
At the moment, any individual content creator is just a little xitch when it comes to the power relationship.
All the YouTube creators, all the Apple App Store developers, all the Xbox developers etc.
Re: YouTube TV loses ESPN, ABC and other Disney channels in fee dispute
#10Personally I'm delighted to trade ABC, ESPN, etc [1] for a $15 reduction in my YouTube TV bill. It just makes me wish Google would unbundle all their different providers so I could choose only the ones I want. [1] Your local ABC channel, ABC News Live, Disney Channel, Disney Junior, Disney XD, Freeform, FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, National Geographic Wild, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 (by authentication to the ESPN app)…
I don't have YouTube Tv but your comment almost made me dry heave a little realizing we are back at square one with cable tv and bundling channels users don't want and forcing them to pay for stuff. I haven't had cable tv in years but seldom don't miss a show I want to watch. It is mostly all online if you know where to search. Also Canadian so no one comes knocking on my door for downloading.
Also Canadian so no one comes knocking on my door for downloading.
Sure about that?
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